Originally Posted by iruinedyourday (Post 1848238)

The quesation isnt what epic changes RAIDING more than any other epic, it asks what is the most clsas defining epic.

99% of the game is not raiding, 100% of the gameplay is changed with an epic on a shaman. There for the shaman epic is the most drastic change to gameplay you will find in EQ hands down.

Originally Posted by Crawdad (Post 1848251)

The gameplay isn't changed though, you're just more mana efficient. Shaman would still be root rotting 8+ mobs if they had the natural efficiency to do so. Plus, its efficient for soloing only; Epic vs Non-epic rogue is night vs day for soloing/grouping/raiding/tunnelquesting.

Bard is fundamentally changed in your options by their epic. Clerics epic changes the game in groups and raids--like someone else said, you go from wipe and scoot to wipe and another attempt.

Originally Posted by -Catherin- (Post 1848254)

Also in raiding scenarios your epic bards are always going to get the MT and melee DPS groups while the non-epic bards will be with the casters, since not having an epic doesn't change what they can bring to a caster group but an epic bard significantly impacts and melee and MT group.

Can't really think of another class where their role in a raid group literally hinges on having an epic or not.

Originally Posted by zanderklocke (Post 1848261)

If you have the sky horn, swap that in for epic during McVaxius cast for rogue or tank group for more DS and DPS. Mmm.

Originally Posted by -Catherin- (Post 1848265)

I was thinking specifically the psalm of heat and cold songs, which come with a stackable damage shield, that are singing mod only :)

Going to be pretty big in Velious where the MT having as much DS as possible will make a big impact on long drawn out fights.