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Tradesonred 05-13-2015 09:17 AM

The problem is the dev mindset, where people should easily have access to gear instead of having to fight for it hard, as if this was a pvp server.

Thats what fucked the server and gave it on a silver platter to Nizaar's zerg in the first years. As long as they keep that mindset youre gonna see ridic stuff like cant engage a raid force without a raid force or xp loss in pvp.

Slathar 05-13-2015 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tradesonred (Post 1890728)
The problem is the dev mindset, where people should easily have access to gear instead of having to fight for it hard, as if this was a pvp server.

Thats what fucked the server and gave it on a silver platter to Nizaar's zerg in the first years. As long as they keep that mindset youre gonna see ridic stuff like cant engage a raid force without a raid force or xp loss in pvp.

shut the fuck up

Tradesonred 05-13-2015 09:44 AM

Slathar the anarchist doing direct action, promoting horizontal decision making in these here forums

Slathar 05-13-2015 09:45 AM

ill train you

Nirgon 05-13-2015 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by contemptor (Post 1890390)
Funny stuff. The best is the "elite" crew thinking they are so great in this tiny server with no competition. It's so cute, really.

there's a difference between competition and being on call 24-7 to throw a javelin

Played the fuck out of blue, it was life ruining sickness

Syft-X 05-13-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tradesonred (Post 1890719)
As much as i dislike syft and hate to agree with him, if youre new here you can get a feel for what passes as "discussion" in these here parts. Instead of saying why the quote is correctly or incorrectly perceived as being "Blue" aka restraining as much as possible PVP, they attack the messenger for the first 5 pages (i didnt bother to read the rest).

Yesterday's underdogs are todays self-serving rule-lawyers.

Prohibiting people from engaging a raid force without a raid force, the Nirgon quote, all that stuff is utterly blue.

Nirgon's entire agenda is to put rules in place that would stop someone from attacking a raid force unless the opposing team has equal numbers to contest.

Of course Empire plans to continue recruiting so no one will have equal numbers, he wants anyone hit with attacking his raid to catch "Disrupting a Zone"

His Ultimate goal is to farm the shit out of velious for the first six months until Empire has such a gear advantage they can shut down the server just like Nihilum did at Kunark launch.

Of course Empire has zero intentions of following these rules themselves they like to play the perfect "Teachers Pet" to GM's but every engagement we have had with Empire over the past two weeks was opened by them with massive and blatant training.

Nirgon 05-13-2015 10:33 AM

We're going to do it to you also

Remember, there's raid targets harder than Trakanon

(Way to be pvp focused and rush the dragon and wipe instead of fight... very lols)

Syft-X 05-13-2015 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Nirgon (Post 1890820)
We're going to do it to you also

Remember, there's raid targets harder than Trakanon

(Way to be pvp focused and rush the dragon and wipe instead of fight... very lols)

Unlike yourself we would rather them remove the rules all together, Empire doesn't follow them anyways. Your guild has literally opened every large scale engagement by training.

We'd rather not have our hands tied and be punished by following the rules, when your guild clearly has no intention on doing so and will happily eat account suspensions to win a raid mob.

Nirgon 05-13-2015 10:37 AM

-> Doesn't want rules

-> petitions constantly fishing for bans

Syft-X 05-13-2015 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nirgon (Post 1890831)
-> Doesn't want rules

-> petitions constantly fishing for bans

I would prefer no rules YES!

But that discussion isn't up to me, there are rules here, and I follow them. I don't do things like RMT and weasel up to GM's to get out of it. I don't cry to DEV's to get the code changed in an agenda for my guild.

And if you break LNS or Train you are damned right I will report you, because I respect why the rules were created and what they were meant to do. Unlike scumbags like yourself who only want rules put into place so you can abuse them.


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