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weaseal 06-28-2016 04:18 PM

Haste question (melee noob)
 
According to the haste guide (http://wiki.project1999.com/Haste_Guide), multiple types of haste do not stack. Does this mean that if I buy a Silvery Belt of Contention and Silver Chitin Hand Wraps that I will only benefit from one of the items and not both?

Whirled 06-28-2016 04:21 PM

The four types of haste

  1. Permanent item haste: haste effect listed on an item you wear.
  2. Spell/song/clickie haste: haste effects gained from nearly all spells, bard songs, or click-able items.
  3. v2 haste: Ervaj line of bard songs grant v2 haste. This is not "overhaste" and will not allow you to exceed the haste cap.
  4. Overhaste (v3 haste): These effects allow you to exceed the haste cap, but no such effects existed before the "Shadows of Luclin" expansion was released.

    ***Some people stack Haste gear for the stats but it does not increment.

weaseal 06-28-2016 04:44 PM

Yeah, that is what I was concerned about. Damnit, I already bought both items lol

Danth 06-28-2016 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by weaseal (Post 2310774)
Yeah, that is what I was concerned about. Damnit, I already bought both items lol

Don't worry too much. You should be out only a bit of time. Haste items remain in permanent demand so you ought to be able to re-sell one of the items for more or less what you bought it for. Optionally, you now have a second haste item you can give a melee alt character if you have one and don't mind the cash hit.

Danth

Cecily 06-28-2016 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by weaseal (Post 2310774)
Yeah, that is what I was concerned about. Damnit, I already bought both items lol

That's unfortunate, but your post might stop someone else from making a similar mistake in the future. So feel good about that.

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tl;dr version for total haste: The highest of worn haste + spell haste (includes bard) stack.

So a rogue with a CoF (36%) + Epic (40%) would have 40% worn haste.
Add VoG (58%) and your total haste would be 98%.

The only exception to this is the bard song Melody of Ervaj. That's a 5% haste which will stack with anything up to a total of 100%.
There's no way to exceed the 100% haste cap in Velious.

Morphyus 06-29-2016 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Swish (Post 2310765)
Genuine question, if a rogue is max hasted and pops their "blinding speed" disc... do they exceed the haste cap?

I always stuck to duelist/deadeye... just curious.

Would like to know this as well - anyone?

paulgiamatti 06-29-2016 06:34 PM

My instinct says no - I tried using it against Tolapumj once while at cap and I didn't really notice a difference. Something that needs to be parsed for a sure answer.

koros 06-29-2016 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Morphyus (Post 2311772)
Would like to know this as well - anyone?

It's a flat delay reduction in weapon delay. I think 15%, removed from the final delay after haste. It should therefore get better the more haste you have.

Othniel626 06-29-2016 09:56 PM

Stick with the belt over the gloves, a lot of better items floating out there for hands than belt, as I found out the hard way on my monk who is looking at buying a 2nd haste item in order to free up my hand slot.

pathius41 06-29-2016 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by weaseal (Post 2310774)
Yeah, that is what I was concerned about. Damnit, I already bought both items lol

well I certainly would hate to let one of them go to waste! my main, a rogue no less, is currently with out any haste. hint hint LOL


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