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Mleh 07-05-2016 08:36 AM

Keep the server "Classic!"
 
This is a rant about the PvP environment and what has been altered.

I frequently complain about things like AoN name plates, and the reply is always "Well it's how it was in classic!" which has lead to the item being god tiered and essential to any "big shot PvPer."

My number one complaint on this server is that a single player such as a monk or rogue can essentially 1v10 and cause havoc because people have to be super aware and organized to "stop them."

Many things were taken away from the server to deal with "mini bosses:"
- Recharging
Recycling items would help almost every "new player" who can't pay 1k plat for expendables that are camped by raid geared PvP lords.

- Adding cast times to items because they are "too good."
Items deemed "Clickies" were untouched on the premise that they are fun and useful for the top players. They have since become the standard of PvP to avoid being dispelled in 1v1/1v2+
However, adding cast times to items like Golem Metal Wand essentially unbalances "clickies" because now there is no way to deal with them unless you have 3+ people with coordinated pumices or casters with pillage enchantment, and even then you are wasting all kinds of time while they run around and do whatever they want.

- Removing PvP interaction from items
Items such as Ivandyr's Hoop / Trakanon's Tooth / Death Scarab Gland etc; may be the only logical items that should not be rechargeable, however it was CLASSIC that they freely existed. The server allows people to freely gate from PvP with items when things get too hairy, yet does not allow quick kill items to prevent this.


TL;DR: I fail to understand why GMs did custom surgery on PvP mechanics, when all it did was create different conflicts and advantages.

Bazia 07-05-2016 08:38 AM

u must be be new if u think u want rechargeable clickies on an eq pvp server

Samsung 07-05-2016 08:43 AM

Didn't read

Mleh 07-05-2016 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bazia (Post 2315353)
u must be be new if u think u want rechargeable clickies on an eq pvp server

Spent years on Rallos Zek looting items and being item looted, no complaints to a fair playing field.

I understand it would basically lead to both sides of PvP being dispelled into oblivion instantly, but specific things should be dealt with subtly, not changing a major mechanic all together.

As long as you can't instantly kill players with a cheap recharge I see no problems. Expensive recharges, Level minimums to use items, there are all sorts of creative ways to keep things "fair" without butchering mechanics all together.

Bazia 07-05-2016 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samsung (Post 2315358)
Didn't read

newfag thinks rechargeable trak tooths should be in the game and doesn't understand why we asked for it to be patched out

Mleh 07-05-2016 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bazia (Post 2315363)
newfag thinks rechargeable trak tooths should be in the game and doesn't understand why we asked for it to be patched out

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Items such as Ivandyr's Hoop / Trakanon's Tooth / Death Scarab Gland etc; may be the only logical items that should not be rechargeable
Yeah I may be a newfag here but explaining why things changed rather than lashing out would be more productive.

TacoSmasher 07-05-2016 08:57 AM

samsung us a toxic goofball. dont expect much from these schmucks mleh

Farzo 07-05-2016 09:04 AM

The issue with things like trak teeth are simple. I have 2k hp self buffed on my druid. A sk can ht for 1.1k.....so to instant kill a decent geared druid would require a trak tooth and a ht. (This would include wiz,necros,chanters etc).

If you can recharge golem wands everyone will have them and use them with impunity.

What they really need to do is remove yt so that blasted board with disappear and people wont be afraid 2 pvp.

Slather literally tl'd away from me @ 81% hp bcoz he's so terrified of dying.

hurt 07-05-2016 09:15 AM

I don't think there are any major issues with the pvp mechanics right now.

The primary issue with the pvp environment is that the vast majority of the server simply do not want pvp and become furious when attacked/killed.

TacoSmasher 07-05-2016 09:40 AM

thats not an issue, killing people who become furious is the best part.

mleh is right tho, wands should be instant cast. as for recharging and the rest, fuck that


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