ct = the price is right, closest without going over( 25 mobs ) wins

i think that would be another mob that could either be fte lock in or rotated like a tunare tbh.

but im curious to how dain being pulled all the way to the other ZL then dropped isn't a stall, there is +2 mins to get there, then the 4/5mins it takes to walk back and he bugs out of the world. this allows you to pull then drop and be able to get another fte even after camping out if you know the mechanics of his pathing back due to his warping. seems fishy to say the least if we're not allowed to pull zlandi to zone in due to pathing bugs why can dain be pulled same way?

The Final Arbiter takes like 11 min to show up after FTE

Whats your point?

EQ is not black and white, its grey, u figure it out.

Also Im not aware of any expoiltive pathing regarding Dain, Zlandicar is not allowed bc it trivializes the encounter by him warping to the zone in solo skipping all the adds from what I recall.

You can pull Zlandi up if you take him tru the tunnel naturally (that might have been a Rogean ruling early on, not sure)

We had to drop the pull and let dain reset due to the pull being less than desirable. We cleared aggro and let him reset. He was walking back from our camp to the throne room and unaggroed. This is a dropped pull and not a kite.

At no point are we under the number of people in raid to kill dain, there was no mass migration from thurg to tov and back to thurg. Painting a picture of all of us running out and porting/gating to tov is absurd and misleading.

What happened is raid force in place, pull team in place, tanks in place, speed bumps in place, healers in place .. pull not good so it is called to drop in multiple ways including /ooc.. pull is dropped and all aggro is cleared /q zone out ect. mob resets ... or tries to but is spam hailed to keep locked in place by a unguilded Rustle member. Rustle still did not have a raid force logged in or zoned in at this point or any point of the encounter.

You understand the difference between a kite/stall and a dropped pull right?

Pre footrace rules in TOV if you dropped a pull it was FFA and nabbed quick, at kite was a mob being pulled away from your raid force for x number of seconds, he only moved towards us when aggroed and never away.

The point all of awakened members are trying to make is we had a kill force in place and had to drop the pull to get it right not drop the pull to get more people there. you own logs will show who was there and was it doable.

Having a kill force in place and one ready to log/zone in is a world of difference. We lose mobs all the time due to people no being logged in and also concede mobs that are kited by us when we are pulling regardless of the other guy having a kill force in place or not.

Not understanding that we are pulling to the lower zoneline versus the upper zoneline to reduce the number of "mysterious" trains is not an excuse to attempt to mislead staff/public on the actual happenings.

It is the same reason we pull to LTK for most of the mobs in TOV versus pulling to the entrance. No weird trains no easy snipes no /ooc of concede you killed my cleric and no hurt feelings about eating the dragon's AE's.

In reality you guys really just pointed out how you were stalling the NPC by hailing him in the tube.

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if you posted more than one time in this thead plz have ur head examined you are sick

I play a 17 year old elf Sim this goes without saying.

Trust me, the only difference between a kite/stall and a dropped pull is a GM's mood when it gets petitioned...

Vulak spawned as Dain was coming into camp, only reason why it was dropped. I don't know what kind of drugs Clorthos is on, but we apologize for unleashing our version of that Wutang guy on this thread.

Less than desirable timing

I think he is trying to say I am odb

just curious, not trying to get at anything other than a greater understanding on pulls that involve warps. as you know we used to warp PD right to zone in.

Lmfao an "undesirable pull" meaning you had him in camp, vulak spawned and you spammed for everyone to camp out. That is why people like happyhealz ended up getting a dain FTE. That is obviously a stall. You pulled with the intention to kill, didn't kill because a better target spawned and you didn't want to be locked into dain. Your pull made it impossible for the other force to pick it up and awakened lost the race for vulak before he even reset. That is an obvious stall, playing under the "spirit" of the rules as awakens calls it, would have been killing dain and not mass camping to drop FTE for a shot at vulak.

You dropped the pull to be eligible for vulak, stop spinning shit when you're obviously unskilled at it.