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azxten 01-21-2011 02:02 AM

Bard Song Changes
 
You can recast Bard mez over and over on caster mobs and nonstop interrupt them without resist. I remember this not being possible in classic and today I realized it's because there used to be a recast time on mez like 3-5 seconds or something to prevent exactly this.

Lazortag 01-21-2011 02:08 AM

this would be a pretty huge change, do you have a source to back it up?

azxten 01-21-2011 03:24 AM

I looked around for a second and didn't find anything. I know this isn't how it used to be though. Casters used to be a difficult fight in EQ but if you have a Bard in your group now (who knows about this) they're a joke.

They spend all their time trying to cast basically just to get mezzed so they mostly stand there getting beat to death while not casting a single spell and rarely meleeing.

It's obvious in my opinion this wouldn't be something the developers would have left in. All I have is my memories though unfortunately.

john_savage1982 01-21-2011 09:48 AM

i'm not complaining, i love being able to chain-mezz caster mobs

Uthgaard 01-21-2011 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazortag (Post 209547)
this would be a pretty huge change, do you have a source to back it up?

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Originally Posted by Uthgaard (Post 208677)
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Originally Posted by Lazortag (Post 208504)
Uthgaard, I have no problem believing you're correct, but that link also says that both spells have an equal resist modifier, when on p99 for the longest time only Chords of Dissonance has had such a modifier. Is this intended?


Neither of them have a resist modifier in the spells file you're currently using. This is the entire set of changes to those two songs in my file.

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Made Chords of Dissonance resist mod 15, recast delay 12000
Made Denon`s Disruptive Discord resist mod 15, recast delay 12000
I could use some research about when the 12 second recast delays were removed from songs though, because at kunark launch, it was still implemented.


Uthgaard 01-22-2011 04:28 PM

I imagine a lot of bards are going to rage when this goes live and flood the bug forums with reasons why it shouldn't have happened. This isn't going to affect just two songs. Every bard song had a 12 second recast delay. Meanwhile, it's sitting here awaiting the evidence.

Abysis 01-23-2011 12:48 AM

Wait a second...whats going on?

Lazortag 01-23-2011 12:57 AM

It's weird because people on this forum have claimed to remember being able to spam Manasong in classic, so it couldn't have had a 12 second delay if that's true. Can anyone find any mention of this 12 second recast on the internet? It would only impair the functionality of a few songs significantly (mez, charm in some cases, manasong, etc.)

svarien 01-23-2011 03:15 PM

I can't speak for pre-kunark because i didn't start playing a bard before then but i know there was no delay after kunark. I spent quite a bit of time in seb playing the role of enchanter more times than not. There is no way that would have been possible with a recast time on mez song or anything else.

Abysis 01-23-2011 10:16 PM

If you put 12 sec recast on all songs you might as well delete bards as a playable class.


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