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shwally 07-07-2018 08:44 PM

Monk weapon question
 
So I picked up a helium maul of superiority for my monk recently. I was wondering if I should wield it in my primary hand or offhand? It is 11/18 which puts it at 1.83 DPS. I’m wondering if I should have epic fist + maul or go maul + scepter of mastery. Any suggestions would be great.

Imago 07-07-2018 09:58 PM

Paradigm: faster weapon mainhand, best ratio offhand.

If Epicced: Fist (9/16) and Maul (11/18)
If Not Epicced: Maul (11/18) and Scepter (13/20)

Jimjam 07-08-2018 10:14 AM

Nice gotcha but if you want to know what is the best set up for your build in the content you want to do then you're just gonna have to do a lot of in the field testing.

Imago 07-08-2018 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Femm (Post 2736597)
Going on your paradigm of enlightenment. What if it was 1/15 and 9/16. By your statement you’d put the 1/15 on, which is retarded. 17/25 outdamages 9/16 on all but AoW.

At what point did he say he was considering using a Piece of Shit (1/15) that doesn’t exist? The paradigm applies to the three comparable weapons in question: Epic Fist, Velium Maul and Scepter of Mastery.

Stay on point, and leave your Hammer of Battle out of it.

Baylan295 07-08-2018 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Femm (Post 2736597)
Going on your paradigm of enlightenment. What if it was 1/15 and 9/16. By your statement you’d put the 1/15 on, which is retarded. 17/25 outdamages 9/16 on all but AoW.

It’s a paradigm not the Word of God.

shwally 07-08-2018 08:27 PM

So would maul be better offhand than the scepter of mastery?

Imago 07-08-2018 08:47 PM

THe ratios are virtually the same (SoM is actually 13/21 = 0.619, vs VMoS is 0.611) so you need to consider other things. SoM is 3 weight but has mediocre melee stats. VMoS has 7 weight but lots of mediocre stats.

You could go either way with it, but weight might be the deciding factor.

Troxx 07-09-2018 05:55 AM

Maul + SoM should be more dps than epic + SoM - but it’d be so insanely close it does doesn’t matter. Epic would probably win on high ac targets.

If you can get ToV loot why would you waste dkp on that? 7 weight is ugh. Offhand SoM is a tiny bit better. I’d have saved your dkp for something more meaningful. Really the only upside of the maul are the stats, but it comes at a hefty price in terms of weight.

Fragged 07-09-2018 06:54 AM

Maul (11+5.5)/18 = 0.917
Fist (9+5.5)/16 = 0.906

So the Maul is barely better.

That being said I would expect the fist to out DPS the maul on Velius raid content because on high AC encounters minimum dmg is an exorbitant proportion of ones total DPS. Thus skewing the scale towards faster weapons.

Raev 07-09-2018 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fragged (Post 2737203)
That being said I would expect the fist to out DPS the maul on Velius raid content because on high AC encounters minimum dmg is an exorbitant proportion of ones total DPS.

Everyone seems to think this, but you can do trivial math on delay, double attack rates, and hit chances and show that the damage bonus grants is quite small. Even the 16 delay monk epic fist only generates ~14 dps from the bonus.

P.S. Hi Cinderr!


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