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Tranquil Staff stun effect

Tranquil staff has 100 blows as the proc.

From what other monks on the server are telling me is that it is a 10 second stun. This is how it was on beta from testing when I got it on my monk.

Now the stun wears off on the next hit from any melee/pet. The effect is acting like its Whirl Till You Hurl.

I can't find that many links. Just old monks upset about it being nerfed in 2006 to a 1 second stun.

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/po...topic_id=61624

Wayback Machine isn't letting me pull up Allah's. Anyone else have links to support this? Or a Dev knows for sure?

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=572

First couple quotes from 2001:

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actuly i just got one tonight its a 120dd plus a random length stun from 1 to 5 or so seconds
Thand 54 mon innrouuk

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prolly more like a .0000001 to 5 sec stun, from experience its often insta taken off... BUT IT CANSTUN A GOD! WAHAHAHA

http://www.monkly-business.net/forum...5&postcount=51

2002:

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I have heard that max duration on the stun is supposed to be 12 seconds, but in the year I have had mine I have see that all of about once, usually more in the few seconds time frame if it happens at all.

Note that the tstaff stun effect *is* the same spell effect used in whirl.

I wasn't sure. I was going off of what I was told and what I saw on beta.

I tried to look up the effect in Lucy, and know it is Listed as One Hundred Blows, and not Whirl. So I wasn't sure. I don't know how to read the raw data they have listed. Just because it has a "spinning" effect to it, does that mean it falls in to the same effect as Whirl till you Hurl?

wayback machine still won't work for me. I'll keep looking around. Just seems some comments tell one story and some a different one. Thats why I made the first post since I can't really find much atm.

2002

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The DD part of the Proc always happens, the Stun though still not stun Unstunnable Mobs. The Consensus on Monkly Business seems to be that the Stun Lasts for 3 6 or 12 seconds, depending on the mob's level. If you Duel with it it tends to stun other toons for 12.

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T-staff procs 120 dd and a stun that last for 1-12 seconds. Stun duration is random (1-12 sec) but have yet to have it resisted.

From 2006
Talking about a nerf to the proc. I know its 2006, but a nerf to 1 second stun, is kind of telling it lasted more than 1 second.

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Well through my experiences, I've only locked down maybe 5 people of about over 1000. I've never personally been locked down either. I've also had it where I didn't proc once on anyone maybe 3-6 times. I don't mind 2.0 change as much as Tranquil Staff to be honest. I've been using Tranquil staff for who knows how long to switch back between stun and dps weapons. That half-second stun really makes it useless to where I've banked it =(. I think they should change One hundred blows proc back to how it was; leaving 2.0 click wouldnt be a problem.

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Changing Tranquil staff to half a second stun is pointless to even use now. Why change something from the Kunark era?? 2.0 is now a 1 second stun, also pointless. These nerfs were way too huge from what they were originally. Make the stun at least 3+ seconds to make it efficient enough to even use or at least change Tranquil Staff back to its original state.
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Used t-staff on live for a long time in kunark/vel/luclin...

The stun here so far has not exceeded three seconds yet and is usually short enough to not even notice a stun happened. I recall being able to land a proc and move to the backside of the mob and whack away at a good clip and sometimes even get lucky and stunlock mobs for 50% of hp etc.

I can confirm that it *isnt* breaking on melee damage like whirl right now. I think the max stun time needs to be adjusted. I don't have any idea nor can find any breakdowns of stun length distributions or anything (RNG?).

The spell effect was not nerfed to 1 second. The 2006 post from live has nothing to do with the proc here.

It will randomly break depending on various factors. It's working as intended.

The stun has never lasted more than 3 seconds (6-12* edit) was max on live, as evidenced by post and others' experiences).

Also: When 1 proc falls during a previous proc's duration the stun component is not refreshing and only the DD portion is working (no stun lock like there should be).

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Posted: 2002-09-19 23:13:37 | Quote | Reply to Post | Follow
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T-staff procs 120 dd and a stun that last for 1-12 seconds. Stun duration is random (1-12 sec) but have yet to have it resisted.

RE: 100% non resistble
Posted: 2002-10-25 11:43:45 | Quote | Reply to Post
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The DD part of the Proc always happens, the Stun though still not stun Unstunnable Mobs. The Consensus on Monkly Business seems to be that the Stun Lasts for 3 6 or 12 seconds, depending on the mob's level. If you Duel with it it tends to stun other toons for 12.
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And if all this will not Serve, I'll drown you the Malmsey butt within.

rsome stuff i learn about this wep
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I got this staff from my rl friend.
It is 29 30 10wt proc 100 blows.
I have fought Tunare - idol statue AoW
and non resisted....it proc 75dd in pvp and stunn las 12 sec.Now people who say this wep is only for twinks are wrong. T staff is one of the best pvp weps in the game for monks..Now dont flame im not on a pvp server but do pvp alot in arna.And i also have FoN form tunare and SoM from kael but this is alot better for pvp one proc + innerflame = dead caster or melee with alot less hp only thing wrong with this wep in pvp is people spin and can still repoist used to just stand still :( Vishish Bloodshedder TP server

additional cites for stun lengths

from http://web.archive.org/web/200112241....html?item=572

Ahout Proc By: Anonymous
Posted @ Sun, May 20th 11:07 AM 2001 Score: Good[4.00]
And lets not forget to mention that the proc is UNRESISTABLE , Nothing can resist it, on the mobs like 54+ it doesnt stune them but it will interupt there casting. Its a 120DD and a 1 to 12 second stun. Im 47 and got lucky and won a roll on it the other day in karnors (yahhhooo) I about had a heart attack, glad I got my IFS the week b4 and started pracing 2hb was at 50, now im at 212, cant wait to proc time :O)

I have this staff By: Anonymous
Posted @ Fri, May 25th 10:40 PM 2001 Score: Decent[2.50]
Ok, we all know the issues that monks have with weight. Frankly, I like the fact that I can hit for 115 (at level 43) with just under 200 skill in 2hb better then I would like those few extra ac points. The proc is a 120 point unresistable dd from what I understand, as well as a up to 12 second stun. At this point I don't give a rats ass that I'm at 18 weight. With this thing I beat stuff up, end of story.

On a related note...

Tstaff was infamous for it's PvP ability to stun for extended periods of time. I was on the receiving end of a Tstaff yesterday and whenever it proc'd, I would get the "One Hundred Blows" icon, but not be stunned. I would take the damage and still be able to move around and attack. No stun lock whatsoever.