They also don't believe in nation states and they want a more globalized world.

That way they can't be held accountable when in power.

They can be lazy elites and stay in power without representing anyone. It's easier to judge someone's performance when they're supposed to represent a small group with specific goals.

The decision makers are mostly dual citizens or foreigners that are bleeding america.

I'll tell you exactly what will happen if they have their way.

Financials bubbles will continue to build up like they have in the past. Sooner or later our debt will get to an unmanageable position. Americas economy and financial system will blow up. And we won't have the credit to borrow for one of those multi trillion dollar stimulus's.

America's economy will be ruined. The elites have set themselves up to be multicultural, dual citizens or foreigners. Once the bubble pops, they will simply walk to the next financial empire country and do the same thing without any penalty whatsoever.

It will be us middle and low class people that will be left picking up the pieces for generations.

Your car analogy is terrible. If I had a car with no windows or door locks I'd drive it into the middle of nowhere and leave the keys in it all day long before I'd waste money to install windows and doors. That's what we're talking about. The middle of nowhere. Just to appease morons who are too dumb to read.

I already said walls work and are a good idea in urban/urban buffer areas.

any person who as a part of this debate states that "walls don't work" is an imbecile

or deliberately disrespecting you by disregarding the facts

we bout these Smartwalls

whats a smartwall precious

We should nuke both Kentucky and El Salvador. What’s your point?

Wow I never thought of it this way. Gee, if my house doesn't have a roof to separate it from outside, is it really a house? That's the problem in this fuckin country, we don't have a roof! Build the roof! Build the roof!

Someone needs to tell Israel they need a roof. Their own government has stated at least 50,000 Palestinian's work illegally in Israel every day.

Another very well thought out argument I just hadn't considered. I do lock my car and yet I still had a car stolen once. At the time I thought locking a car just isn't enough to stop someone that's determined but I guess where I fucked up is that my car had doors and windows so that it could be used as a car. It did have a roof though.

If Trump declares a national emergency for $5.7 billion to build 215 miles of wall how much do you think it will cost to build a wall for the other 1300+ miles that wont have a wall? We'll still need to get some estimates on the roof though.

Troll on my friend :)

Teppler has gone full nuclear Asperger in this thread - much like the Seb drama of yesteryear ... only this time with a comical political twist.

A+ thread

Fantastic toilet reading

Ah so you got your car stolen. That means walls and doors and locks never work.

Have you not locked your car since it was stolen the first time? What's the point right? You got it stolen once, it'll probably happen again. So your logic must be, you never ever ever lock anything you own. All the same as locking them right?

Leave your car unlocked with keys in sight in a low class area and it will get stolen every time and it will cost you ever time.

Leave your border open with massive welfare available and low class populations of surrounding nations will similarly exploit it every time.

You missed a critical point that locks/walls don't solve all the crime but they greatly mitigate and then you move on to the next problem.

You build solid locks and doors on cars THEN you add alarm systems THEN you add some sort of iphone tracker THEN you investigate the people that get by these systems.... which there won't be as much because you keep adding levels of protection.

You build a physical wall at the border THEN you get after corporations that hire them THEN you investigate the people that get by these systems.... which there won't be as much because you keep adding levels of protection.

Oh Triiz. I still remember you thanking me for teaching you how to solo crypt and then you asking me if I wanted to hold down Hierophant camp permanently with you and I was just like "lol ummm no". Good attempt being above all this tho.