You heard it from the top: they're happy with how things are. If we can't change Rogean's mind, nothing will change. And since he no longer engages with the community, that seems to be pretty much impossible to do.

There absolutely is: the unclassic "competition" system. I keep repeating it, but everyone keeps ignoring what I say, so I'l repeat it yet again.

There are three, I repeat, three levels of guilds on this server. Not "l33t hard-working uber-raiders" and "filthy lazy casuals", but:

1. guilds that aren't capable of ToV
2. guilds that can do ToV (either individually or in an alliance) and are willing and able to play the unclassic P99 competition game
3. guilds that can do ToV (either individually or in an alliance) and aren't willing and/or able to play the unclassic P99 competition game

Switching to a rotated system would by definition allow all of the guilds in group #3 , who don't currently do so, to experience ToV. In other words, it would let more of the server experience classic EverQuest content, supposedly what this server is all about. And for all this outcry over how it would destroy the server, the Sky rotation has worked awfully well for many years now.

This server is not competition.

You have Aftermath winning 85% of the targets and everyone else on the server just waiting for them to conceed on mobs so that they can suck up the leftovers.

Werll, I 100% think getting Rogean to have a broader definition of "competition" is how we change his mind. But again, it seems like a futile effort right now: how do you change the mind of your benevolent overlord when your benevolent overlord no longer interacts with his project anymore?

Sorry I called you Fatnar that one time

Except there is.

You were cothing up, which means:

• you already had your raid force at ToV;
• you had a mage in position to coth a puller.

I think by the time we even got our mage online you'd already cothed up three or four people? You had the jump on us.

It only takes one person to pull any of the trips or twins down to Aary. You had the same infrastructure we had, with people in position, and a raid force in zone. Saying that there is no way to compete with that is just incorrect - you were just not quick enough.

I've also seen Kittens pulling flurries and Eashen guards to the zone in, so you also understand the mechanics and have people capable of it.

And we were very careful with the pull to make sure you did not get trained. Nothing pathed back over you, we didn't ask you guys to log out of our way.

Your only inconvenience was wasted pearls.

Thanks for contributing all that you have to the project. Enjoy the freed up time.

Should be coming around same time as discord

Usually what happened in the last 24 wakes leaders up.... IF NOT... anyone wanting to or are part of the management team should ask themselves is this worth it when the leaders dont care.

I am going to guess R/N being more active now though... sucks that Braknar had to fall on his sword to get it done

The point of the server isn’t to give everyone BiS pixels, it’s to have a server as close to classic as possible.

Guess what? Casual players not having BiS gear is as classic as it gets.