Cement mixer would get that job done.

haha

^^^

I loved pulling dragons. I also like crawling. One is more effort, but both are fun.

From the perspective of a small guild person: what Zanderr said + the guild(s?) that set up the "entrance to tier" gatekeeper mobs were big enough to justify being in the Class C group, but didn't want to compete. So they could lord over the small guilds. Similar to a 6th grade kid in the 3rd grade playground area. So they were similarly gaming the system, in that regard. Then got mad and threw a fit when they couldn't make all the 3rd graders do exactly what they wanted. The 6th grader ended up competing with the 3rd graders, regardless of making a claim to not wanting to compete in the first place.

Regardless of all this drama between 3rd and 6th graders, the "Age of the Class System" was the time where I had the most fun on P99. I feel bad for the guild leaders that had to sift through the bullshit on the daily to keep the wheels turning.

Taking a trip down memory lane is interesting. All the things that can be dusted off with a little help.

What are the current rules for the Tunare and Ring War rotations, out of interest? Seems to be working alright?

ring war is fixed rotation 4 entities
tunare is race / rot / rot / race / rot / rot ... w/ 4 entities

Who are the four Tunare entities? Riot, AM, AG, Aegis? Or some more alliances in there on the last two?

Aegis++ (bg/kittens/aegis) but yeah

BDA and Taken.

BDA falls into the description you laid out.

Taken was a little more justified in opting for Class R over Class C. You have to remember that there were so few targets back then compared the post-Velious raid scene. TMO and IB were so hardcore that competing against them required and equal level of commitment. Taken were just a little too casual for that mess.

Also, BDA and Taken didn't just assume that going Class C would be too much, they also got to compete directly against TMO and IB whenever a mob was FFA, which was every 3rd spawn. If they really felt that would have been good for their guild is go class C I have to believe they would have. Targets like Trak, VS, and Sev were huge for TMO and IB still so those were often contested on FFA by BDA and/or Taken as well and I don't think they had a ton of success outside of the occasional snipe.

In the end most of the Class R guilds either merged with Class C guilds or left the server.

If I remember correct the Class R guilds were...

A-Team: Merged with IB pre-Velious to form Rampage.
Divinity: Slowly died. RIP.
BDA: Went to Phinny server.
Taken: Aligned with Forsaken+Asgard and later Rampage in the pre-sleeper waking days. Merged with the remnants Rampage shortly after.
Asgard: Aligned with Forsaken pre-sleeper waking and merged into current day Aftermath shortly after.
AG/Omni/Europa: Never merged but were the CSG alliance well into Velious.
Moonlight Crusaders: I think they folded pre-Velious?
Indignation: Merged into Asgard pre-Velious but some more hardcore members went to Forsaken.