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Castle2.0 03-20-2020 10:02 AM

Is this faction goal possible?
 
Background: I killed 2,000+ bards on on my mage on Blue, but am still KoS in Mistmoore. Never received the "cannot get any better" message.

There are 2 primary factions in MM: Agents of Mistmoore and Mayong Mistmoore. Agents faction cannot be raised by any means. MM faction can be raised.

According to the faction page (see: http://wiki.project1999.com/Faction), max-KoS is -2000. max-dubious is -699. It's accurate -- tested it on other factions. Should only be ~1300 kills (assuming only 1 faction point per kill) to go from max-KoS to dubious.

Goal: Become non-KoS in MM with a toon on Green.

Question: Does anyone have any info on how multiple factions interact? Averaged?

Irony: Bards get the best faction-improving spell/song. Might take a bard to accomplish.

Wallicker 03-20-2020 10:29 AM

There might be another faction they are on that cannot be raised/lowered that just isn’t listed. Kinda like some of the Kael giants it’s impossible to become non kos to.

Wallicker 03-20-2020 10:37 AM

I can run over to Mistmoore later and faction song buff on green, I’ve slaughtered bards to the faction cannot get any worse point

gnatch 03-20-2020 11:37 AM

Base faction
 
The base faction dump from live from https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...64&postcount=3 shows:
Code:

285 - Mayong Mistmoore
        -2000        51        Human
        -2000        52        Barbarian
        -2000        53        Erudite
        -2000        54        Wood Elf
        -2000        55        High Elf
        -2000        56        Dark Elf
        -2000        57        Half Elf
        -2000        58        Dwarf
        -2000        59        Troll
        -2000        60        Ogre
        -2000        61        Halfling
        -2000        62        Gnome
        -1000        178        Iksar
        -2000        180        Vah Shir
        -2000        661        Guktan
        -2000        1106        Drakkin

Not sure what the p99 values are but having a huge base faction adjustment might mean you're really starting out at -4000 if you're max kos (can't get any worse) faction.

Wallicker 03-20-2020 11:46 AM

Seems bard with iksar illusion mask + song would be an instant +1600 boost on top of grinding I’d figure that would get you there

Castle2.0 03-20-2020 12:22 PM

Quote:

I can run over to Mistmoore later and faction song buff on green, I’ve slaughtered bards to the faction cannot get any worse point
I think negative hits are -10 to -30 and positive +1, for the vast majority of faction hits.

It's pretty easy to get max KoS to bards. But getting Dubious or better in MM would take ~10-30x longer. Might give it a go at some point in Vanilla -- it's still many moons before we see Kunark.

branamil 03-20-2020 12:25 PM

an NPC can only be on one faction. But you can lose several by killing it. All the NPCs in mistmoore are on AgentsOfMistmoore which cannot be raised.

Castle2.0 03-20-2020 12:26 PM

Quote:

an NPC can only be on one faction. But you can lose several by killing it. All the NPCs in mistmoore are on AgentsOfMistmoore which cannot be raised.
(1) how do you know? and
(2) how do you know?

magnetaress 03-20-2020 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Castle2.0 (Post 3099954)
(1) how do you know? and
(2) how do you know?

(2) so sayeth the internet
(1) go kill npcs

magnetaress 03-20-2020 12:30 PM

Good luck on illusion and some form of alliance spell. Maybe, skele, or elemental + an alliance. Regular invis and Invis Vs Undead work real good in there though, also harmony, so it is kind of pointless.


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