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Asele 04-24-2020 05:24 PM

Why is PoM part of a raid ban?
 
Q23: What exactly is off limits during a Raid Suspension?
A: Anything that has an FTE message and/or is considered more than one group content is a no (except Guardian Kozzalym, Master Yael, Verina Tomb, Vessel Drozlin, Lodizal, and Ragefire), no planes, no VP, no ToV, no ST, no Ringwar.

People are bound in PoM. People solo or single group all the content. There are no raid targets. There really needs to be an exception for PoM like there is for Guardian Kozzalym, Master Yael, Verina Tomb, Vessel Drozlin, Lodizal, and Ragefire.

Dogma 04-24-2020 05:54 PM

Because people get CotH'd to PoM thru ToV. The inclusion is to prevent people from loitering, tracking or interfering in ToV under pretense that they were waiting for CotH up to PoM.

kjs86z 04-24-2020 06:00 PM

Because if you're raid banned you don't deserve to play in PoM.

ajohnymous 04-24-2020 06:28 PM

Because Sirken

Baler 04-24-2020 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogma (Post 3117575)
Because people get CotH'd to PoM thru ToV. The inclusion is to prevent people from loitering, tracking or interfering in ToV under pretense that they were waiting for CotH up to PoM.

This

Asele 04-24-2020 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogma (Post 3117575)
Because people get CotH'd to PoM thru ToV. The inclusion is to prevent people from loitering, tracking or interfering in ToV under pretense that they were waiting for CotH up to PoM.

I'm not sure how that applies. Being allowed in PoM wouldn't allow you in ToV. I accept that the situation is what it is. I am just trying to honestly understand the underlying logic behind banning card farming and leveling in a non-raid zone for characters bound or camped out in PoM. How is that logically connected to raiding?

loramin 04-24-2020 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogma (Post 3117575)
Because people get CotH'd to PoM thru ToV. The inclusion is to prevent people from loitering, tracking or interfering in ToV under pretense that they were waiting for CotH up to PoM.

It does seem like they could easily ban raiders from using ToV, while still allowing them access to PoM (if already there, or bound there). If the staff's logic was purely to prevent raiders from raiding, why ban raiders from going from any non-raid zone to any other?

I'd think it would make more sense for their motives to be punitive in some sense. Maybe "PoM is a perk for people who clear ToV (*corrected) and the people they feel like CotHing ... the non-raiders CotH-ed in didn't break the rules, so they stay, but all the raiders lose the raid privilege of the zone."

But look, even if the reason is literally just that it would be a minor hassle for the staff to have to type "The Planes (but not Mischief)" ... I'm 100% ok with that personally! We're talking about the people that volunteer their time to catch the cheaters, so that the rest of us can have a cheat-free (not to mention actually free) game!

Croco 04-24-2020 08:28 PM

What does HoT have to do with PoM?

Baler 04-24-2020 08:30 PM

First hand seen Ntov raids wipe because COTH to PoM caused drakes to flip out.

Also people on alts without guild tag selling COTH to POM

edit: the rule may have been added during sirken's time but it makes sense when you see it in practice.

loramin 04-24-2020 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Croco (Post 3117720)
What does HoT have to do with PoM?

Nothing; I mixed acronyms. Fixed.


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