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Demonstorm 06-03-2020 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Solist (Post 3134400)
Just autofire it like robthe, foroar, etc. who regularly died after fte without even moving.

Course they do. becuase you cant turn that off fast enough.. OBS that shit and they get banned permanently.

baakss 06-03-2020 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LazyHydras (Post 3138709)
We had a kill force there. Kanshu was sitting in the water and fell asleep at his keyboard because he was probably up all night, lol. Nothing I could do about that except call in the cavalry. I did not know he fell asleep at the keyboard until I was already running it around with darkness.

Uhh... you could actually just... drop the mob?

If you're not doing anything to kill it, and admittedly "waiting on cavalry". That's a drop situation.

LazyHydras 06-03-2020 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by baakss (Post 3138985)
Uhh... you could actually just... drop the mob?

If you're not doing anything to kill it, and admittedly "waiting on cavalry". That's a drop situation.

I'll let the GMs tell me to drop it, not Furoars aka Robthe. Is it a drop situation? Because I've been doing Lodi for a few years now and EVERY single time someone has it and doesn't have the force, they have a few minutes leeway to drag it around before they need to drop.

Muggens 06-03-2020 11:13 AM

As a filthy casual I voted for the roll option, but giving it some thought I cant say I support a roll system.

Were would it take us? In a few years will all attractive mobs be "roll offs"? Thats not a good way to go for the server.

Cant really use the autofire argument as thats not legal and should be policed by the GMs. If autofire is not allowed, it should be reported/policed, not change around how the game is to be played.
(I dont camp Lodi, and have only bought a map piece once)

loramin 06-03-2020 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Muggens (Post 3139070)
As a filthy casual I voted for the roll option, but giving it some thought I cant say I support a roll system.

Were would it take us? In a few years will all attractive mobs be "roll offs"? Thats not a good way to go for the server.

Cant really use the autofire argument as thats not legal and should be policed by the GMs. If autofire is not allowed, it should be reported/policed, not change around how the game is to be played.
(I dont camp Lodi, and have only bought a map piece once)

That's the core problem here: there are no good options here. The only one I could see is if the staff added some sort of /list-like feature ... but of course they have lots of other things they'd rather do I'm sure.

Until they do, we can only choose the "least bad" of some bad options. Rolls do have some downsides ... but to me (and most people I think) they are far better than the alternative of clickfests and Autofire.

And as for saying "the staff should just magically get better at catching cheaters" ... that's not a (real world) answer: it's avoiding the fact that we have two bad choices by wishing for an imaginary third one. I don't think the staff are going to get any better at detecting click software if they haven't figured it out after a decade.

kaizersoze 06-03-2020 12:12 PM

Make lodizal summon at 100% 2020. Make him like the dragons. Bring kill force or get wrecked trying to kite.

baakss 06-03-2020 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LazyHydras (Post 3139002)
I'll let the GMs tell me to drop it, not Furoars aka Robthe. Is it a drop situation? Because I've been doing Lodi for a few years now and EVERY single time someone has it and doesn't have the force, they have a few minutes leeway to drag it around before they need to drop.

You want a GM to intervene every single time you illegally kite Lodi?

Or you could just have some integrity and drop the mob when you're cheating.

And I'm not interested in what Robthe does, what "EVERY single time someone" does, or anything like that.

The rules say you're not supposed to kite unless you're actively trying to slow, and you had no slower. That's a drop situation for anyone who has respect for the server rules.

LazyHydras 06-03-2020 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by baakss (Post 3139163)
You want a GM to intervene every single time you illegally kite Lodi?

Or you could just have some integrity and drop the mob when you're cheating.

And I'm not interested in what Robthe does, what "EVERY single time someone" does, or anything like that.

The rules say you're not supposed to kite unless you're actively trying to slow, and you had no slower. That's a drop situation for anyone who has respect for the server rules.

Sorry, where is it illegal? How often have you done Lodi? Because I see people kite him around for up to 5 minutes all the time. And I was casting engulfing darkness on him.

aaezil 06-03-2020 02:12 PM

Lodi isnt a raid mob. Kite until your force shows up is fine.

baakss 06-03-2020 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LazyHydras (Post 3139167)
Sorry, where is it illegal? How often have you done Lodi? Because I see people kite him around for up to 5 minutes all the time. And I was casting engulfing darkness on him.

The GM's have stated the rule, and you obviously know what the rule is as you're providing a defense for violating it.

As Lothisu pointed out earlier, you're dancing trying to place 'any' debuff on the mob so as to seem like you're active. But the truth is you're just stalling for your slower.

Your defense to all this is "Well, other people have done it, so I guess it's okay for me!"

One can only conclude that you don't care about the rule because you're unlikely to be caught and punished by the GM in real-time. And it's not like you're worried about losing respect or credibility -- you had none to begin with.


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