Originally Posted by Trexller (Post 3160653)

Really? Carpet bomb them?

most of the civilians up in any war zone just want to be left alone and try to figure out how to live and enjoy their lives.

I'm a Go-Army kinda guy but my name is not Bomber Harris and I do not condone Dresden.

Originally Posted by Topgunben (Post 3160661)

I think is saying the we showed restraint in War instead of indiscriminately killing everyone

Originally Posted by Trexller (Post 3160648)

What does military history have to do with Portland? It's a microcosm of everything the left has forgot.

Think about today's 25 year old. They were 6 years old on 9/11/2001. I remember where I was when the planes hit the towers. I was actually playing EQ that morning when my dad said turn on the TV.

Those 25 y/o beta boys do not remember. They never saw the people jumping to their deaths to avoid the flames. Or the firemen who ran up stairs knowing they likely weren't coming back down. Or the people crushed as the building fell.

Remember the American Flags that lined every street after 9/11? I do. These kids have no national identity, they grew up on anime and participation ribbons. Their world view is fed to them by globalist liberal media with a marxist agenda.

Portland rioters have raised the stakes, taunting us to respond with real force because they know we wont. The price is too high. Its not the peaceful protestors, its agent provocateurs of the embedded radical left.

So really, what is a means to restore order? We are reduced to just letting these people shit in their own beds.

Originally Posted by Lune (Post 3160623)

I guess if you move the goalposts enough you can cope anything into being a US victory- nothing is more American.

Originally Posted by Trexller (Post 3160666)

Saddam could not have been left in power... Dude was making life suck for everyone, including his own people, whom he shelled, tortured and gassed. Also didn't play by the middle east community oil rules (OPEC). Yep, the truth is often hard to swallow, but truth it is.

Chemical weapons are the second no-no after nukes. I don't even agree that CS gas can be deployed on American citizens, when its use in war has been outlawed internationally.

Originally Posted by hobart (Post 3160672)

These Trumptards are as the name implies, retarded. It's a waste of time.

For years we used these sorts of idiots to generally push forward a conservative fiscal agenda and, in my opinion, a vastly superior foreign policy. We hosed these morons off every four years, got them pumped up on Faux News outrage, sent them to the polls, and then sent them back to whatever shithole they crawled out of until the next cycle.

Fast forward 25+ years. Gorged, fat, and insane on neocon AM talk radio and conspiracy theory bullshit, these ideologically stupid and lazy hens have come home to roost.

You can't argue with someone who can't answer a question about the current president without bringing up the prior president, his secretary of state's emails, or calling you a snowflake because he assumes everyone who points out that he's missing the point must be a "liberal".

There's federal overreach in Portland. It should concern EVERY American regardless of their politics. How shitty the city of Portland is being run is not an issue for the fed to solve.

Originally Posted by Lune (Post 3160665)

So American flag lapels and other faux displays of patriotism are more important to you than reining in federal tyranny and standing up for black people, got it.

Originally Posted by Lune (Post 3160665)

So American flag lapels and other faux displays of patriotism are more important to you than reining in federal tyranny and standing up for black people, got it.

Jesus Christ, they grew up on participation ribbons because boomers were giving them away-- do you think these 10 year olds were awarding each other soccer trophies? You speak of having no national identity- boomers are the worst fucking offenders on that front, they're the ones who sold our country out to globalism, and they're the ones looking the other way while Russia puts bounties on the heads of American soldiers.

Sitting American president "likes troops who win, likes troops who don't get captured, gonorrhea was his personal Vietnam", and you have the audacity to villify liberals for a perceived lack of patriotism. Yikes

Originally Posted by Lune (Post 3160674)

So if chemical weapons are so bad and Saddam couldn't be left in power, why aren't we in Syria taking care of Assad and bringing democracy to the heathens?

Originally Posted by Trexller (Post 3160676)

Racism has always been America's achilles heel. It can always be dug up and stoked and warped to fit whatever agenda you are trying to push. Its great in that regard because any words or actions against the agenda you are floating on racism can be dismissed as, you guessed it: Racist!