Originally Posted by LoganVivisected (Post 3203323)

We all know the problem is the Trakanon target. No one on the server thinks that a rotated Trak will be viable for any raid force to rely on to get to VP. Guilds will have to win Traks to do that. Why Trak is important to rotate is it allows for things like the class specific BPs to be obtainable in era for players who don't have the means to raid like a 17 year old waiting to start college. The top guild(s) agreeing to provide that chance every month or two to the whole server doesn't seem like an unreasonable proposition. If we care about having a healthier server then I don't see what all the fuss is about. Especially when many of the open raid loot items are still won by top guilds anyway due to dice rolls. Denying Trak as part of the rotation is really just childish; more akin to a bully on the playground hoarding toys, than adults having fun with a bit of nostalgia.

Originally Posted by ClephNote (Post 3203465)

When did casuals getting more and more and more welfare loot become the metric by which we measure server toxicity?

Isn't what you are proposing readily available on a TLP server? Log on whenever you want, get your pixels. This is a single instance server, begging for scraps and trying to claim the moral highground is cringe.

Originally Posted by Lostfaction (Post 3203338)

ST doesnt care about sharing raid content.

Originally Posted by Zipity (Post 3203316)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...no/mobilebasic

I believe this was the more than generous offer for top tier raid mobs on green that was shot down.

Originally Posted by kauvian (Post 3203321)

Wait did Seal Team say they are taking all the raid targets? Or did the UN cancel open raids?

Originally Posted by ClephNote (Post 3203468)

Seal Team founded the UN, Open Raids, the rotation system.

ST doesn't care about sharing 7 day raid content? Correct. Everyone else is getting pretty fat and entitled on the current system though. It's kept Kingdom relevant far longer than it should have.

Originally Posted by matticas (Post 3203501)

No and no. Why would ST burn out their raid force taking classic targets right before Kunark releases? ST leadership actually asked to help lead open raids this week.

Originally Posted by strongNpretty (Post 3203435)

My experience on Red has been so friggin enjoyable. So ignore the trash talk on red you guys.

Originally Posted by Scalem (Post 3203505)

Only reason ST even suggested Open Raids was because they didn't like the Bag Limits idea that was being proposed. But sure keep on spinning!

Originally Posted by Vill (Post 3203524)

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=344710

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=345984

When was the charity pixel bag limit proposal made?

Because even before these two examples was an open raid on Lord Nagafen.

Before you go on the internet and lie, at least feign interest in having your facts straight.