That's getting pretty close to a "she was asking for it, look at what she was wearing" kind of argument. Who brought those mobs up to the spot? I don't think it was Ben. But, hey, idc, we flubbed that Vulak fight fair and square and lost with or without Riot's train.

That being said, the train did interrupt our rhythm in the same way that rhythm is interrupted when a batter calls time as the pitcher sets, or when a coach calls a timeout just before the kicker goes for a field goal.

If the raid had been shrunk, they could have all fit behind the corner instead of standing exposed on the tracks. This is the problem with the zerg ag / f. That black drake would have agro'd Ben regardless because of where he was standing, but Riot did take control of the mobs and took the time to review while you engaged, throwing out another memblur on vulak (how have we not talked about this? We all saw the new FTE message during engage with people on him) and eventually wipe.

rule 76

I'd stop arguing this if I were you.

If the mobs were aggro on Benji rather than Berkeley, then the mobs wouldn't have stopped at Berkeley's feet when he FD'd. They'd have ran right past Berkeley to Benji because initial aggro was on Benji.

But that's not what happened.

They stopped right at Berkeley's feet, THEN started running for Benji.

And you might think - but wait Conda. Benji had initial aggro because someone drew a red line, so certainly he had initial aggro, and Berkeley ran around the corner, got fresh first aggro on a new mob, and that is why they stopped at his feet. But this would also be false because instead of merged train aggro transfer, again, the mobs STOPPED and then moved to Benji.

There is no argument. Berkeley caused this train.

Benjamin 100% should have been more tucked and would have avoided the drakes that were aggro'd by Berkley. Unsure if the drakes would have aggro'd anyone else after Berkley did.

A red and black drake were picked up and killed by AG/F as well after that train.

/thread

Can't we just go back to the raid suspension? That was better.

Freedom caster pulls 3 drakes, Freedom raid cannot handle pull.
Freedom gaslights, gets free attempt at Vulak but no drops.
Case closed. Moved to resolved.

Let me see how it looks when I FD mobs in front of you and then say you pulled them all on your own accord lmao

Imagine not being able to count past 3

Was I standing out in the open in a zone where that is a death sentence and people are expected to stay tucked in (somewhat) safe areas? Yes? Ok my fault.

Badsadmad. /resolved