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Ripqozko 11-19-2020 02:33 PM

Imagine focusing on drake los instead of laughing at them failing Vulak. Hope that helps.

Nexii 11-19-2020 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorster (Post 3214692)
Can't we just go back to the raid suspension? That was better.


Gorster 11-19-2020 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripqozko (Post 3214706)
Imagine focusing on drake los instead of laughing at them failing Vulak. Hope that helps.


LazyHydras 11-19-2020 02:38 PM

Can I just say that Nexii is a wonderful human being? No sarcasm involved, here, really just a non-controversial player. :)

Sancta 11-19-2020 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Croco (Post 3214705)
Was I standing out in the open in a zone where that is a death sentence and people are expected to stay tucked in (somewhat) safe areas? Yes? Ok my fault.

Badsadmad. /resolved

Wait so you're saying the train was intentional? Since the AG/F caster was (somewhat) safe and the Riot monk brought them to the (somewhat) safe area.

Nexii 11-19-2020 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripqozko (Post 3214706)
Imagine focusing on drake los instead of laughing at them failing Vulak. Hope that helps.

Crying wolf about drake LoS, using the 'let's talk it out' as an opportunity to engage Vulak first, blurring Vulak during their engage against the rules, then failing anyways

xdrcfrx 11-19-2020 02:48 PM

times will be not 100% specific since I don't have the means or desire to time stamp this that closely.

At the 6 second mark the drakes start moving, as someone is telling Ducke to stand up on the signal, then berkley runs around the corner and flops. be interesting to see around that corner and know who actually aggro'd the drakes initially - it sure wasn't berkley, though. berkley rounds the corner at the 7 second mark after the drakes are moving.

mobs were gonna aggro on benjiman regardless of the riot monk, because he was not tucked in and out of los.

aren't you all the folks that argue that no where is safe in ToV, and everywhere is on the tracks? Can't have it both ways.

Croco 11-19-2020 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sancta (Post 3214712)
Wait so you're saying the train was intentional? Since the AG/F caster was (somewhat) safe and the Riot monk brought them to the (somewhat) safe area.

What train? AG/F caster wasn't within a galaxies distance of being in a safe area while multiple guilds were competing and pulling in a zone with a history of "bad pulls happen". If you're so dumb you stand in that area as a class that can't FD then your guild tries desperately to gaslight people into believing it wasn't your fault you got agro and died then transferred that agro to the rest of your group I don't know what to tell you.

sydbarrett25 11-19-2020 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by condap99 (Post 3214679)
I'd stop arguing this if I were you.

If the mobs were aggro on Benji rather than Berkeley, then the mobs wouldn't have stopped at Berkeley's feet when he FD'd. They'd have ran right past Berkeley to Benji because initial aggro was on Benji.

But that's not what happened.

They stopped right at Berkeley's feet, THEN started running for Benji.

And you might think - but wait Conda. Benji had initial aggro because someone drew a red line, so certainly he had initial aggro, and Berkeley ran around the corner, got fresh first aggro on a new mob, and that is why they stopped at his feet. But this would also be false because instead of merged train aggro transfer, again, the mobs STOPPED and then moved to Benji.

There is no argument. Berkeley caused this train.

The point of the line was how it was poor raid form. Tuck in if you dont want to tank a mob. Wiz may be okay at it fwiw

LazyHydras 11-19-2020 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by xdrcfrx (Post 3214718)
times will be not 100% specific since I don't have the means or desire to time stamp this that closely.

At the 6 second mark the drakes start moving, as someone is telling Ducke to stand up on the signal, then berkley runs around the corner and flops. be interesting to see around that corner and know who actually aggro'd the drakes initially - it sure wasn't berkley, though. berkley rounds the corner at the 7 second mark after the drakes are moving.

mobs were gonna aggro on benjiman regardless of the riot monk, because he was not tucked in and out of los.

aren't you all the folks that argue that no where is safe in ToV, and everywhere is on the tracks? Can't have it both ways.

I see what you mean. The mobs definitely were moving before Berkley moved, yet the mobs stop moving when Berkley flopped. It would be nice to have a PoV around that corner to see if anyone else was up there and had caused the initial aggro. Was Berkley running fraps? Would be nice to see an angle from his perspective.


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