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Gravydoo II 01-16-2021 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by imperiouskitten (Post 3245455)
found the dead lady's twitter

https://i.imgur.com/y8dXiQL.png

doesn't look like a Qtard to me, can anyone tell me where they found that narrative? rabid antimasker though so you could say karma oroborus nibbled its tail if you were kind of shameless. poor woman.

btw she didn't deserve to get shot even in context, I saw the video. Who is this shitty plainclothes cop sitting silently then surprise popping a woman in the neck through a narrow opening. For fucking shame. Definitely a case where a warning shot was called for. But he was probably not thinking beyond his own safety and the fact that his ammo was limited. Gotta make good shots to beat back a faceless zombie horde with a sidearm. Poor, panic stricken situational awareness anyway as he should have saved that round for someone likely to actually attack him or lead the violence, not a slender woman, since in the panic scenario we're talking about you run short of ammo regardless. Just an awful, cowardly policing performance. I could perform better with literal videogames as my training and experience regimen.

Anyway, who is this woman's husband? Wish there were more good men out there to steer these girls straight. she was pretty enough to deserve some reprogramming and safety.

Really though, its that serious at any military check point. The quarter deck of every ship is guarded with armed guards. If you cross in a violent/rioting manner, you can/will be shot. Everyone whos been on quarter deck watch knows this. Its that serious. Those check points exist in the capital anywhere they choose to erect them, even in the moment. Cant just charge the officials.

I feel sorry for her being delusional but if someone is going to be shot, thats the place they should be shot. That behavior in that place, in that moment, is reason to be shot. If people tried to take the quarter deck of the ship by force you best believe they would be shot. Thats just a ship.. not even the capital.

Jibartik 01-16-2021 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by booter (Post 3245489)
can you imagine what would have happened had she/others been allowed to breach that point?

Well considering they all tucked tails and walked out after that, Id imagine they would have got in there and yelled at them.

I think it's a delusion that the press seems to be living under that the people that literally walked out without police escort and ended their own "insurrection" without a shot fired by their side, was planning on murdering congress people in there?

I saw what happened with my own eyes, and they all walked out and everyone acting like AOC was literally about to be beheaded on a live stream.

Gravydoo II 01-16-2021 11:57 PM

Cant help if they failed. Thats their own fault they didnt plan for that contingency. You think they were not there to hurt people?? Literally killed a guy, beat dozens of cops..

Cassawary 01-16-2021 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravydoo II (Post 3245511)
Cant help if they failed. Thats their own fault they didnt plan for that contingency. You think they were not there to hurt people?? Literally killed a guy, beat dozens of cops..

A cartoon frog told them to do it. And they did.

That's the mentality we're dealing with.

Gravydoo II 01-17-2021 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassawary (Post 3245512)
A cartoon frog told them to do it. And they did.

That's the mentality we're dealing with.

Weird how all the sudden they were not there, they didnt do anything. If they were there, they didnt do shit. Oh im on camera committing a crime? That was antifa. Oh we beat a guy to death? That happened, but it was antifa. We dont know how to loot or riot, we're republicans. Fucking frog people got short memories. I love how they were too stupid to realize it was over before it began.

Gwaihir 01-17-2021 12:12 AM

Scary stuff I think some of them were even coughing

Gravydoo II 01-17-2021 12:40 AM

baked alaska was coughing and sneezing, with covid, in the middle of it. Its not a big deal, gwaihir. Thats why you could never take and oath to serve anything. You cant understand the difference between wendys and the capital. Does not remind anyone of this, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch at all, ever. Looked nothing like a violent take over of a building to hurt/kill people, which they did. Right? lol blue lives matter, right?? Those darn antifa with their rioting...

mention portland, the guy goes nuts.

Kaveh 01-17-2021 01:05 AM

Gravy get a life dude

imperiouskitten 01-17-2021 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by booter (Post 3245489)
i don't like police killing people, but she was climbing through the window over a barricade into a room where congresspeople were literally sheltering in place. the guard has no idea whether or not she is armed, or what is coming in right behind her. he has a job to protect the people we elect. there was no other option at that point in my opinion at least iN tHe HeAt Of ThE mOmEnT aka SpLiT sEcOnD dEcIsIoNs.

can you imagine what would have happened had she/others been allowed to breach that point?

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Originally Posted by Gravydoo II (Post 3245502)
Really though, its that serious at any military check point. The quarter deck of every ship is guarded with armed guards. If you cross in a violent/rioting manner, you can/will be shot. Everyone whos been on quarter deck watch knows this. Its that serious. Those check points exist in the capital anywhere they choose to erect them, even in the moment. Cant just charge the officials.

I feel sorry for her being delusional but if someone is going to be shot, thats the place they should be shot. That behavior in that place, in that moment, is reason to be shot. If people tried to take the quarter deck of the ship by force you best believe they would be shot. Thats just a ship.. not even the capital.

I saw the video and it was a cop lurking behind cover who fired without warning before she did any lunging. You talk about the severity of the situation because of the people behind the door but the cops were not enforcing the security of that important premises with lethal force in general. So, it was simply not to be expected. It was done with zero warning that he was lethally serious, no verbal warning no loud sounds no hand signals on a day when the rest of the cops were wearing kid gloves, and to the person who probably least deserved it.

If the cop were not lurking behind cover so overly-concerned for his own welfare he could have pistol whipped her at the window, he could have fired over the people's heads and sent them scattering like roaches. He could have done more. But he was panicked, or eager to shoot, or really internalized that dogma that the cop's life is the very most important one (but why yes i am a hero too).

Don't excuse the needless death of this poor lady because of your politics. And don't stay glued on your point like a kid. Go watch the video. A gunshot's percussion in that enclosed space with a crowd is PANIC inducing, man could have held the door with blanks but killed someone just in case. Probably following his training, which is therefore clearly flawed. I'm not a psycho feminist so I'm allowed to say that it's totally fucked up and pathetic for a man to shoot a woman in the throat without warning for looking through a window with the apparent intention to start threading her leg through it imminently, whoever it is down the hall.

If you're militarized cops, act like militarized cops uniformly. Don't surprise-pop the most sympathetic character on the scene and leave Baked Alaska in Pelosi's office to stream. No forceful verbal warnings, no clear posturing to fire, no nothing. Yes it's the heat of the moment, but if you can't calculate in the heat of the moment don't take a martial profession.

She was a girl riled up on group psychology, not a potent threat. The gunshot totally broke the mood at that doorway if ya didn't notice. Cop could have done more. Could have fired into the ceiling, could have behaved with honor. But instead followed training to the letter with no mercy. I'm not calling for him to be imprisoned -- this is entropy at work, really, the entropy of many poor-quality human beings, and more violence will not help--, only calling him a shame on his family. People who go blind when they face danger should not be police. And I'm lamenting the utterly senseless death of a mentally ill woman, killed by chaos in perhaps the most controllable of all situations on the premises that day. And bemoaning the poor quality of any loved ones in her life who did not discourage this behavior. And lastly, am expressing that it is sad to see the tribal apologetics for state violence every time it is applied to the audience's "other side".

These people are not demons any more than you are. We have been collectively abused. We are so alienated from the political process of our "democracy" that a cartoon frog has taken over discourse. This woman was killed by the storm of chaos and iniquity she was caught in -- not for her sins.

As for the policeman, he made the vocational decision to be in such situations but lacks the strength to behave with heart in them. Ergo he is a complete shitbird. Loser shot a woman to death. Could have achieved the same stopping power with a firecracker. Huge karmic backstep. Bad cop, no donut.

cd288 01-17-2021 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by imperiouskitten (Post 3245538)
I saw the video and it was a cop lurking behind cover who fired without warning. You talk about the severity of the situation because of the people behind the door but the cops were not enforcing the security of that important premises with lethal force in general. So, it was simply not to be expected. It was done with zero warning that he was serious, no verbal warning no loud sounds no hand signals on a day when the rest of the cops were wearing kid gloves, and to the person who probably least deserved it.

If the cop were not lurking behind cover so overly-concerned for his own welfare he could have pistol whipped her at the window, he could have fired over the people's heads and sent them scattering like roaches. He could have done more. But he was panicked, or eager to shoot, or really internalized that dogma that the cop's life is the very most important one (but why yes i am a hero too).

Don't excuse the needless death of this poor lady because of your politics. And don't stay glued on your point like a kid. Go watch the video. A gunshot's percussion in that enclosed space with a crowd is PANIC inducing, man could have held the door with blanks but killed someone just in case. Probably following his training, which is therefore clearly flawed. I'm not a psycho feminist so I'm allowed to say that it's totally fucked up and pathetic for a man to shoot a woman in the throat without warning for looking through a window with the apparent intention to start threading her leg through it imminently, whoever it is down the hall.

If you're militarized cops, act like militarized cops uniformly. Don't surprise-pop the most sympathetic character on the scene and leave Baked Alaska in Pelosi's office to stream. No forceful verbal warnings, no clear posturing to fire, no nothing. Yes it's the heat of the moment, but if you can't calculate in the heat of the moment don't take a martial profession.

She was a girl riled up on group psychology, not a potent threat. The gunshot totally broke the mood at that doorway if ya didn't notice. Cop could have done more. Could have fired into the ceiling, could have behaved with honor. But instead followed training to the letter with no mercy. I'm not calling for him to be imprisoned -- this is entropy at work, really, the entropy of many poor-quality human beings, and more violence will not help--, only calling him a shame on his family. People who go blind when they face danger should not be police. And I'm lamenting the utterly senseless death of a mentally ill woman, killed by chaos in perhaps the most controllable of all situations on the premises that day. And bemoaning the poor quality of any loved ones in her life who did not discourage this behavior. And lastly, sad to see the tribal apologetics for state violence every time it is applied to the audience's "other side".

Loser shot a woman. Could have achieved the same stopping power with a firecracker. Bad cop, no donut.

Anyone who assaults Congress during an electoral process with an intent to try and disrupt said process and ensure the losing candidate ends up as president deserves to be shot. That is literally insurrection and treason, which is legally punishable by death. If people try and pull that bs again anytime in the next few days I hope the national guard opens fire on every single person in the crowd. You don’t get to just try and disrupt democracy and install a dictator and then complain if someone gets shot doing it.

As an aside, what’s really amazing to me is the leftists complaining that the whole situation shows white privilege while at the same time criticizing the one cop who shot someone lol morons


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