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zodium 03-11-2021 03:52 PM

lol

Snortles Chortles 03-11-2021 03:53 PM

lol

xdrcfrx 03-11-2021 04:13 PM

omg, lol hi!

Tentarro 03-11-2021 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xdrcfrx (Post 3272744)
1. for constitutional legal purposes, you have a right to vote, but there is no constitutional guarantee protecting your right to drive, beyond 5th/14th amendment due process clauses, and 14th amendment equal protection clause, which require the states to adopt reasonable standards which are applied to all residents equally. States are free to set limits on driving, so long as they do not run afoul of those somewhat basic standards. The same is not true of voting, which is a specific right protected by the constitution in a number of places, as well as by the Voting Rights Act (such as it remains, in any case).

2. afaik there isn't a long history of using the law to prohibit specific groups of people from driving cars, whereas voting restrictions have a long and well documents history as part of the Jim Crow era to keep non-whites from exercising the right to vote. To that point, there is a Voting Rights Act, but but a Driving Rights Act. So, although it would not be per se racist to restrict the issuance of drivers licenses, or voter ID's, because of the history of voter suppression in the US (and, concomitantly the link between that history specifically and race) voter ID laws are immediately more suspect than laws dealing with the issuance of drivers licenses.

3. (for tentarro) you'll note that none of the Pinochet critics in this thread (such a controversial take, to be against mass torture and extra judicial killings) are in here justifying Pol Pot's disastrous khmer rouge on the basis of "well, those people probably deserved it. just doing what needed to be done." why? because that is a crazy, nonsense, thing to think, and believing it makes you a bad person.

Pol Pot was a communist and Pinochet likely would've done the same to him. The amount of death relating to removing Communism is a drop in the bucket compared to the extinction communists have performed.

xdrcfrx 03-11-2021 05:03 PM

you ever manage to get the taste of boot leather out of your mouth?

Tentarro 03-11-2021 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by xdrcfrx (Post 3272785)
you ever manage to get the taste of boot leather out of your mouth?

Never had it before, you asking for tips or something? Try Horva.

Nirgon 03-11-2021 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xdrcfrx (Post 3272785)
you ever manage to get the taste of boot leather out of your mouth?

Who is willingly brainwashing themselves with corporate propaganda and siding with the people who start endless wars again?

xdrcfrx 03-11-2021 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tentarro (Post 3272786)
Never had it before, you asking for tips or something? Try Horva.

he at least seems appropriately against mass torture and murder as a legitimate political tool. can't say the same for you, sadly.

you do know that in all likelihood you'd be another expendable non-life, fit to be used and discarde or just discarded outright if you object, by the kind of murderous maniacs you're here carrying water for, right?

Tentarro 03-11-2021 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by xdrcfrx (Post 3272792)
he at least seems appropriately against mass torture and murder as a legitimate political tool. can't say the same for you, sadly.

you do know that in all likelihood you'd be another expendable non-life, fit to be used and discarde or just discarded outright if you object, by the kind of murderous maniacs you're here carrying water for, right?

Doesn't seem that way, since Pinochet seemed to only target communists, of which, I'm not.

You do know that in all likelihood, you're the literal definition of a useful idiot, right? You spout pro-communist agendas and demonize the people who improved life and removed (in their opinion, specifically Pinochet) the scourge pushing their nation into poverty, and once the scale tips again, you'd be put on a wall because you can't be trusted to keep your mouth shut, right?

You know that's how it really operates, right? Because you read history, right?

xdrcfrx 03-11-2021 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tentarro (Post 3272795)
a bunch of nonsense justifying murder

well, at least in the USA we managed to narrowly avert the "throwing my opponents out of helicopters" phase when the gravy seals failed to overthrow the government in January. Long may they all rot.

Also was unaware that "murder is bad" was pro-communist propaganda. Who knew!


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