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Trexller 01-09-2022 11:52 PM

well then.... what are we gonna use to fill our for-profit prisons with minorities?

Homesteaded 01-10-2022 12:56 AM

I have tried the lasagna, it's terrible.

unsunghero 01-10-2022 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravydoo II (Post 3409154)
You didnt read it, at all. The whole thing is right there. You cant treat someone for drug addiction while they are in prison. You cant even treat someone unless they want to be treated. Thats the point, drug use went down. Addicts got treatment because they didnt have to fear authorities. Less people die because they can go get their shit tested, too. Then get themselves tested. You dont see the good in it because you were told not to. I understand, the propaganda is strong. Americas approach to the "war" on its own people i mean "drugs" cant be wrong. We need tanks in the streets for these dope dealers! lol

Uhhhh yes there is, in both

Jail: “In Jail. Substance abuse treatment includes detoxification, professional counseling, a residential stay, or maintenance drug programs. Other programs include Alcoholic Anonymous (AA), Narcotics Anonymous (NA), and other self-help groups, and drug or alcohol education or awareness”

Prison: “Some programs provide specialized treatment services, such as drug and alcohol counseling, sex offender counseling, psychiatric services, domestic violence counseling, family counseling, vocational and employment counseling (including job referrals), and life skills education”

I have co-workers who are masters level licensed counselors who work in the correction system providing counseling to inmates


Know what there also is in prison? Extreme violence sometimes. It’s not a good environment. Which is why forced rehab is better. Still will be the occasional fight, because you have cranky people possibly withdrawing with possible underlying mental health conditions. There’s gonna be drama. Still better than watching them kill themselves on the street

unsunghero 01-10-2022 01:21 AM

If you want to use hard drugs with my setup you can as much as Gravy wants you to, you just can’t cause peripheral crime like theft or assault while intoxicated or almost kill yourself

Then you get forced treatment. Keep your shit together and you can do as much heroin as you want and avoid it

Jibartik 01-10-2022 01:23 AM

"those definitely are not chemtrails"

"we should give people heroin"

starkind 01-10-2022 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Homesteaded (Post 3409174)
I have tried the lasagna, it's terrible.

Tbh. About the only thing I can stomach anymore is my own home made eggplant parmesan. It's like the only Italian food I can still digest. Lasagna is way too thick with all the other cheeses and layers of noodles. Always makes me sick.

Gravydoo II 01-10-2022 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by unsunghero (Post 3409178)
Uhhhh yes there is, in both

Jail: “In Jail. Substance abuse treatment includes detoxification, professional counseling, a residential stay, or maintenance drug programs. Other programs include Alcoholic Anonymous (AA), Narcotics Anonymous (NA), and other self-help groups, and drug or alcohol education or awareness”

Prison: “Some programs provide specialized treatment services, such as drug and alcohol counseling, sex offender counseling, psychiatric services, domestic violence counseling, family counseling, vocational and employment counseling (including job referrals), and life skills education”

I have co-workers who are masters level licensed counselors who work in the correction system providing counseling to inmates


Know what there also is in prison? Extreme violence sometimes. It’s not a good environment. Which is why forced rehab is better. Still will be the occasional fight, because you have cranky people possibly withdrawing with possible underlying mental health conditions. There’s gonna be drama. Still better than watching them kill themselves on the street


In Portugal? They are "master level" in Portugal? Cause we're not talking about your made up friends with no names. We're talking about Portugal. You've got it all wrong. Thats retarded to compare the american prison system to a place where you wouldnt be in prison in the first place, dumb ass. Dumb as fuck... My god you're a fucking retard. I should have known.

Ooloo 01-10-2022 09:44 AM

Yeah you won't be in prison in Portugal, you'll be dead on the street from the heroin addiction you wouldn't otherwise have if you hadn't tried it on a whim cause you saw it on sale at CVS. You're still not making any coherent argument for full on legalization.

Alcohol already IS legal and many many many people still end up ruining their lives and losing everything because of it. The alcoholics on intervention are often worse than the junkies.

Pot legalization makes sense to me, even though conservatives often oppose even that. I don't, cause it's just a simple cost/benefit analysis. What's the cost to society of making a given drug widely available legally, and what are the benefits? With pot, there's little cost and a lot of potential benefit. With drugs that make grown men suck other men's dicks to get it, yeah you might not wanna sell that at the gas station.

starkind 01-10-2022 09:46 AM

TLDR:

drugs

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https://i.imgur.com/n70gZjV.gif

Ooloo 01-10-2022 09:53 AM

Portugal is also a bad example because it's the only case study you have. One country. Meanwhile in states with legal weed, use has gone way up. Luckily that's just weed.

Just because one study shows evidence of benefit in one country, with it's own particular culture and lifestyles and demographics, doesn't mean you should just slap that policy on every country on earth and it will do the same thing everywhere. Guaranteed that doesn't happen.


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