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Reiwa 04-24-2022 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by unsunghero (Post 3450618)
Oh was that what I was saying? Or was I saying to try a different way, with a different approach. That’s weird I don’t recall saying don’t try. In fact, I think the opposite. I think I specifically said I didn’t say “don’t accept” and that I wouldn’t put it past you to claim that I was

Want me to find the quote? It seems you really need reminders these days, let’s see the quote:

“I’m also not saying that the solution is no acceptance. I shouldn’t have to say this but you seem pretty slow to understand some things so I wouldn’t put it past you to claim I am”

God it’s like I’m psychic

How long had the K-3 gender identity curriculum been in practice before Ronny made it haram? And is that long enough to see results?

unsunghero 04-24-2022 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jibartik (Post 3450619)
lol based

This is where it gets controversial. Schizophrenia is a delusion, and it is treated with antipsychotic medication. Gender dysphoria is not a delusion. It is a belief. It CANNOT be corrected with antipsychotics

So approaches we take towards schizophrenia are not going to necessarily work with gender dysphoria

unsunghero 04-24-2022 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Reiwa (Post 3450622)
How long had the K-3 gender identity curriculum been in practice before Ronny made it haram? And is that long enough to see results?

This is weird, because I could have sworn my entire premise was about suicidality being a bad progress metric? Are we going to move the goalposts a little?

Let’s fall back on some quotes:

The problem is using suicidality as leverage for compliance reinforces the wrong lesson

It teaches that people only pay attention to me and my needs when I threaten to kill myself, or when they suspect my safety is in jeopardy somehow

We’ll never see a reduction in suicidality under those circumstances
. It’s always going to be much more difficult to get attention through a positive means than negative. We have to pay attention to a cry for help, but not offer the possibility as a reason for everyone else to behave a certain way

Reiwa 04-24-2022 07:31 PM

The metric thing I swear I had you pegged as a protect life above all things guy. :p

Jibartik 04-24-2022 07:33 PM

When did we prove it cannot be corrected? Just curious. I'm not trying to be disrespectful and know any questions are super disrespectful.

unsunghero 04-24-2022 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Reiwa (Post 3450626)
The metric thing I swear I had you pegged as a protect life above all things guy. :p

Exactly why I say it. Because it is reinforcing suicide threats and actions as a means to gain the attention of adults, and to control the environment around oneself

It’s just as bad as “13 reasons why” glamorizing it. It sends a terrible, dangerous message

Intentions are good, method is bad

Elizondo 04-24-2022 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Reiwa (Post 3450622)
How long had the K-3 gender identity curriculum been in practice before Ronny made it haram? And is that long enough to see results?

We're talking about K-3 aged children here in public schools

They aren't lab rats

Reiwa 04-24-2022 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizondo (Post 3450630)
We're talking about K-3 aged children here in public schools

They aren't lab rats

I heard different.

https://i.imgur.com/LnibO30.jpg

Reiwa 04-24-2022 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by unsunghero (Post 3450629)
Exactly why I say it. Because it is reinforcing suicide threats and actions as a means to gain the attention of adults, and to control the environment around oneself

It’s just as bad as “13 reasons why” glamorizing it. It sends a terrible, dangerous message

Intentions are good, method is bad

Well you don't tell the kids about suicide. Do you?

Jibartik 04-24-2022 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Reiwa (Post 3450632)



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