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Reiwa 06-11-2022 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by robayon (Post 3469112)
well so do humans, and a lot of other animal species

it's an old topic and a rimshot, elizondo likes to do appeals to nature without understanding the concept of sentience

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custom_of_the_sea

Elizondo 06-11-2022 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Gustoo (Post 3469126)
The economy was absolute shit with trump

You're just posting nonsense that's not even remotely true

Trexller 06-11-2022 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by robayon (Post 3469124)
donald trump isn't aware any of this even exists, and even if he somehow became aware, he'd correctly call all of us total losers

Elizondo would be named Chief of Staff

robayon 06-11-2022 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Reiwa (Post 3469127)

everything i have ever learned about being a sailor back in those days leads me to believe it was a complete nightmare. The Terror was pretty chilling even without the supernatural stuff, i forget the other sailors show between 1700-1900 show i watched recently

Rethalis 06-11-2022 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by robayon (Post 3469112)
well so do humans, and a lot of other animal species

it's an old topic and a rimshot, elizondo likes to do appeals to nature without understanding the concept of sentience


chimps and humans rape and murder for the sheer pleasure of it too. It is the sentience that makes any of it meaningful.


Natural vs Unnatural is a odd concept to me. The pagan gaia types are abhorred at sentience when it hurts a non sentient thing. If macro-evolution is true how are cities and human constructs not natural?

Rethalis 06-11-2022 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by robayon (Post 3469130)
everything i have ever learned about being a sailor back in those days leads me to believe it was a complete nightmare. The Terror was pretty chilling even without the supernatural stuff, i forget the other sailors show between 1700-1900 show i watched recently

Thats a good book.

Reiwa 06-11-2022 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by robayon (Post 3469130)
everything i have ever learned about being a sailor back in those days leads me to believe it was a complete nightmare. The Terror was pretty chilling even without the supernatural stuff, i forget the other sailors show between 1700-1900 show i watched recently

Terror had a season 2 and it absolutely sucked ass, I didn't finish it.

1 was great though.
 
poison except the feets

robayon 06-11-2022 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rethalis (Post 3469131)
chimps and humans rape and murder for the sheer pleasure of it too. It is the sentience that makes any of it meaningful.


Natural vs Unnatural is a odd concept to me. The pagan gaia types are abhorred at sentience when it hurts a non sentient thing. If macro-evolution is true how are cities and human constructs not natural?

i may have used the wrong word. the point i was trying to make is that i do not think animals even bother to conceive of human concepts such as sexual orientation, or ethics, or any of that shit that we conceptualize and have words for. maybe some can learn better than others, or perhaps some animals are sentient for all we know, but they don't communicate with us in terms we always understand so it's tricky to tell.

i used to train dogs for a living and a big part of that was teaching people to try to think of how situations and their own behavior appears to their dog, but ONLY in concepts a dog might understand.

but yeah, i've often thought of human invention as itself a natural extension of our natural abilities. like why would god give us brains if we weren't meant to use them? it's partly why i am not an anprim.

robayon 06-11-2022 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rethalis (Post 3469132)
Thats a good book.

and I love Dan Simmons but i have not read the book, just seen the show. the Hyperion Cantos was a great series.

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Originally Posted by Reiwa (Post 3469133)
Terror had a season 2 and it absolutely sucked ass, I didn't finish it.

1 was great though.
 
poison except the feets

2 was not nearly as good, no idea if it was even based on a book but i did finish it. season 1 was incredible and grim as hell!

Rethalis 06-11-2022 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by robayon (Post 3469135)
i may have used the wrong word. the point i was trying to make is that i do not think animals even bother to conceive of human concepts such as sexual orientation, or ethics, or any of that shit that we conceptualize and have words for. maybe some can learn better than others, or perhaps some animals are sentient for all we know, but they don't communicate with us in terms we always understand so it's tricky to tell.

i used to train dogs for a living and a big part of that was teaching people to try to think of how situations and their own behavior appears to their dog, but ONLY in concepts a dog might understand.

but yeah, i've often thought of human invention as itself a natural extension of our natural abilities. like why would god give us brains if we weren't meant to use them? it's partly why i am not an anprim.

I was agreeing with you. There is a lot of behaviors in the animal world that people try to associate with human behavior and I find it silly. Like Jordan Peterson and lobsters. I like a lot of what the guy says in regards to individual providence but we are not lobsters.


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