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aussenseiter 01-25-2023 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by WokeCat (Post 3562189)
That's not really my main concern, my main concern is I can very easily imagine a situation in the near to distant future where young Americans are being drafted to go fight Russia in a direct conflict because of this shit. It really feels like we're playing with fire, especially with China threatening to invade Taiwan and North Korea threatening to destroy South Korea at the same time.

This could get messy fast, especially when you realize a lot of arab nations who supply the west with oil will likely side with our opposition during a major conflict since their views naturally align.

Russia has been like, colluding with OPEC, to keep supply low and prices high.

They're still mad about Obama fux0ring them so hard with the oil glut.

Tromp really messed up shutting down the refineries.

Trexller 01-25-2023 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by WokeCat (Post 3562195)
So China is the biggest threat, and our goal is to attack Russia instead of bringing them to our side as an ally? LMAO.

stop thinking so linear

geopolitics is a dynamic, fast moving game with 1000s of players, each with their own agenda.

you gotta allow for variables in your equations, there are machinations in this world that common folk like us will never know.

also, the russians wont be anyones ally. the russians view the world as if every other nation will kill them for a dollar. they also view things in terms and politics that predate the czars.

for example: control of the crimean peninsula has been an ongoing clusterfuck for the past ~300 years.

Elizondo 01-25-2023 12:08 AM

Horza pretending he cares about Ukraine is pure comedy

WokeCat 01-25-2023 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Trexller (Post 3562200)
also, the russians wont be anyones ally.

And yet they were our biggest allies during WW2.

unsunghero 01-25-2023 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Horza (Post 3562193)
Keep moving those goalposts, he just said the U.S. was the country that started the conflict in Ukraine.

It didn’t have anything to do with what he said, I’ve always said there should be a point where we say we have to reduce funding due to our own limitations, not any hatred of Ukraine or love of Russia

The fact that isn’t even an acceptable topic still I find concerning. Just like how Dems (although I don’t consider what I just said a Democrat issue) refuse to give what they feel is a reasonable number of asylum seekers or border crossers in a year. There can’t be a limit because any limit is considered un-ideological and that’s a bad way to make policy decisions

aussenseiter 01-25-2023 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by WokeCat (Post 3562203)
And yet they were our biggest allies during WW2.

Technically, Khrushchev, an ethnic Ukrainian, started the war.

Also England was our biggest ally you goof.

Elizondo 01-25-2023 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by aussenseiter (Post 3562207)
Technically, Khrushchev, an ethnic Ukrainian, started the war.

Also England was our biggest ally you goof.

Not in terms of manpower

It was Russia that conquered Berlin

Kaveh 01-25-2023 02:30 AM

Why would Russia give up 500,000 men for Ukraine? Pretty dumb

Botten 01-25-2023 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Elizondo (Post 3562213)
Not in terms of manpower

It was Russia that conquered Berlin

While massacring Poland on the way through.

Katyn

Jobaber 01-25-2023 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaveh (Post 3562242)
Why would Russia give up 500,000 men for Ukraine? Pretty dumb

I imagine communism is easier to manage with smaller numbers.


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