Don't think of it as 2 free years of community college.

Think of it as 2 free years of trade school.

We need more Indians, ok? :cool:

Once again, I'm just pointing out in this current point of time when it's being passed, who benefits. If someone can't afford to utilize the benefit, then it doesn't benefit them. And would passing this now mean that this doesn't get cut later for some reason? So for all we know one generation of liberal grads might the its only benefactor?

And how does the value of a degree change as a result. Any estimations on that? What about how does the labor market change?

It's a shitload of money. The fact you can find 1 thing that costs more doesn't sway me. Nor does "spending always good, free money good" arguments

Gonna have to agree to disagree here. Haven't convinced me

heh, i once said that the way things are trending that one day college would be on the level of graduating highschool. This means its expected and a given.

2 'free' years, bro.

Is there going to be college 2.0 to secure the gap between the lower classes and the higher classes? i mean this is probably ivy league already but i am sure human nature will perk up and some of those who couldn't get in that will feel the 'great unwashed' nipping at their heels.

Ivy and they all go to private boarding schools together before that. It's a rare bird that crashes the vip party in DC without those bona fides.

I'd say compromise. Rather than pay universities with gov't money put that money towards an affordable federal alternative that they have to compete with. Then the invisible hand will force them to stop ripping off their students

1) the bill is not being passed, there is nothing like that being considered

2) food stamps is 1.3 percent of the budget, this is less

3) When do you ever apply the logic "but it could be repealed if it were to pass and thus be bad" in any other scenario? I'm not even going to begin to go into whats wrong with that.

4) It benefits the 69% of students that take out debt. One of the reasons poor conservatives are more rare is the affordability (the children of wealthy conservatives are not more rare than children of wealthy liberals). I would hope you would tell a younger conservative kid to shelf all his god damn problems with the campus culture if wants to be a doctor and just do it.

Rather than "don't go -- its all liberals"

HVAC specialist peeing in the punch bowl. Didn't calculate that with the two free years of school did they.

No, I'd say don't go because you can make a comfortable living with cheaper and faster alternatives to an undergrad degree nowadays

But your "same team bro" universities don't like me saying that

It doesn't benefit the poor if they still can't afford to quit their jobs and go to school. And you know what also is factoring into these costs? All this recent inflation

But despite this inflation we are gonna say money machine go brrr because spending good?

Or are we going to cut something to get this money?

open wide and receive.

Everybody wants to be the Chief until the punch gets spiked. :p