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JurisDictum 10-12-2021 03:08 PM

To be fair. Its possible he once considered himself leftwing as a young person and didn't realize he was centrist/conservative until he was already down this path. Then whats going to work? "Hey guys, Ben Shapiro light here, look at what the god damn libs are up to now!"

Botten 10-12-2021 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gatordash (Post 3373986)
What they tell you: Biden Seeks $80 Billion to Beef Up I.R.S. Audits of High-Earners


Reality: Biden plan would give IRS power to track bank accounts with $600 or more.

The IRS monitoring of $600 or more is just gas lighting from FoxNews and Right leaning radio hosts.

"While Democrats are still working to work out the details, they are reportedly targeting a $10,000 threshold. That is similar to the amount the federal government already monitors through the Treasury Department."

JurisDictum 10-12-2021 03:14 PM

The OCED countries are also trying to establish a global tax. This is terrible, well off people might have to pay the tax rate workers do.

The thing about wealth is you kind of have to out yourself to elites repeatedly while obtaining it. There gonna know about how much money you have and how you got it. They usually even know if your a drug dealer.

unsunghero 10-12-2021 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JurisDictum (Post 3374047)
To be fair. Its possible he once considered himself leftwing as a young person and didn't realize he was centrist/conservative until he was already down this path. Then whats going to work? "Hey guys, Ben Shapiro light here, look at what the god damn libs are up to now!"

This is probably the case

Having been a long term subscriber to his, his popularity on YouTube exploded when he started making videos not necessarily supporting any specific right wing positions (he was very careful about not doing this), but instead making vids like “can you believe what mainstream media/democrat politicians/big tech/etc are doing now?!!”

Once he realized that 80%+ of his new subscriber base was right wing, he started to adopt more right wing positions. So he to some degree is definitely guilty of grifting, but he still tries to cling to many moderate positions on some things

Elizondo 10-12-2021 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Horza (Post 3374038)
Please try to use your words, Nirgon.

I'm you! No you're me! No I'm you! If I'm not you then who am I!

I'm your clone baby


Whale biologist 10-12-2021 03:31 PM

https://www.uschamber.com/infrastructure

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Progress is being made on Capitol Hill, with the Senate passing the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act on a bipartisan basis.

This much-needed infrastructure legislation will create millions of jobs, improve global competitiveness, and add trillions of dollars in economic growth through investment in roads, bridges, ports, airports, transit, rail, water and energy infrastructure, access to broadband, and more.

The House now needs to pass this bipartisan legislation so it can be signed into law without delay.

Gustoo 10-12-2021 03:49 PM

Don't worry there won't be an inflationary impacts.

Whale biologist 10-12-2021 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gustoo (Post 3374067)
Don't worry there won't be an inflationary impacts.

https://i.imgur.com/igwtnvM.jpeg

Ooloo 10-12-2021 04:23 PM

Joe biden apologists really giving it their all itt.

He sucks. He's worse than trump. Cope.

JurisDictum 10-12-2021 04:36 PM

One conservative point made during the pandemic response that I thought was good was how the Covid bailout should be targeted to those that need it. Nevertheless, just like the Republicans -- I didn't propose some kind of means tested or alternative program.

There are couple of obvious reasons:

1) If you don't give everyone the benefit -- its easy to come up with a bulk of people that resent the money being spent. It was a bad idea to turn this into a giant debate about whether it was fair people making 60K a year didn't get the money but people paying 50k did. Or why unemployed people are making decent money while they didn't get shit.

2) It takes forever to hammer out -- and the results are often pretty sub par. It would definitely be an obama-style slow recovery again. The only way to get big legislation passed, is fast after a crisis these days.

3) We actually did need to stimulate the economy to make sure there wasn't a precepitous drop in demand. Its annoying you can never really falsify this scientifically. All I can say is there are millions of academic and policy types that have shown repeated example of austerity being bad for recovery. I mean worldwide not just the United States.

One of the thing the pandemic showed is that giving out money directly works as a good economic boost. Rather than distributing it through programs and bank loans. People are far less irresponsible with their money than I think used to be the case. They studied the people spending the money on shit like alcohol and new cars etc. It was pretty small.

In fact it was pretty good for debt collectors. This is why the largely vapid and gimmicky Andrew Yang got so much popularity. He did have one good point about spending money socially. Transfers are cheap and effective but programs are slow and inefficient.

Basically we should have a lot less programs based on means testing. So when Corporate Democrats (or most every Republican) come up with a rational sounding story about means testing being the answer... I've seen how that ends up.


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