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Gatordash 10-28-2021 06:03 PM

Surcharges on corporate buybacks is an easy way for the government to make money and actually help the middle class for once while taxing the 1%. Everyone wins in this scenario.

robayon 10-28-2021 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ooloo (Post 3381082)
"America deals death" and yet essentially everyone in the world wants to live here. And americans almost never actually leave. Hmm.. I guess we're bad.

You're still just naming bad things while ignoring good things. What's a good thing america has done? I just wanna see if you can even say it.

My post was not about your abstract impression of who wants to leave or stay, it was about the bad things America has done because that is what you asked me to explain

But it's a fair try at controlling the conversation, I bet that trick works well on liberals... just ask someone to post something and then as a response, talk about something else

Like that time I got stabbed in the face

nostalgiaquest 10-28-2021 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ooloo (Post 3381082)
"yet essentially everyone in the world wants to live here.

As someone who's been an expat for about 10 years now, you is wrong. The idea that everybody wants to live in America is something that Americans who have never traveled or actually talked with anyone outside America say. I lived in Japan for about 6 years, and been in the Netherlands for over 3. Been to most Asian countries, and my current job has me working with and traveling to pretty much every major country in Europe. I interact with a lot of cultures.

Most comments I get when I say when I'm American are usually about how Trump is crazy, the health care is frighteningly terrible, and how dare we call football football lol. They may want to visit, but having someone say that they actually wish they lived there is extremely rare. Maybe 15 years ago that was different, but most people consider America to be a dumpster fire right now.

I also know many Americans who wish they could leave. I get asked frequently for advice on how I did it. But turns out that it's pretty difficult. Things like language barriers and work visas make being an expat quite challenging.

Maybe people in shitty countries want to move to America, but people in shitty countries want to move anywhere that isn't shitty. You think the majority of British, French, German, Norwegian, Finnish, Dutch, etc, wish they lived in America? Well then boy howdy do I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Don't get me wrong, there are many things I miss about America. But it would take a lot to get me to move back at this point.

Ooloo 10-28-2021 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nostalgiaquest (Post 3381095)
As someone who's been an expat for about 10 years now, you is wrong. The idea that everybody wants to live in America is something that Americans who have never traveled or actually talked with anyone outside America say. I lived in Japan for about 6 years, and been in the Netherlands for over 3. Been to most Asian countries, and my current job has me working with and traveling to pretty much every major country in Europe. I interact with a lot of cultures.

Most comments I get when I say when I'm American are usually about how Trump is crazy, the health care is frighteningly terrible, and how dare we call football football lol. They may want to visit, but having someone say that they actually wish they lived there is extremely rare. Maybe 15 years ago that was different, but most people consider America to be a dumpster fire right now.

I also know many Americans who wish they could leave. I get asked frequently for advice on how I did it. But turns out that it's pretty difficult. Things like language barriers and work visas make being an expat quite challenging.

Maybe people in shitty countries want to move to America, but people in shitty countries want to move anywhere that isn't shitty. You think the majority of British, French, German, Norwegian, Finnish, Dutch, etc, wish they lived in America? Well then boy howdy do I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Don't get me wrong, there are many things I miss about America. But it would take a lot to get me to move back at this point.

So not *everyone* does, that means it isn't a trend? The third largest country in the world by population?

Mexico and many south american nations are not shitty at all, and yet migrants pass through them to run accross the southern US border. Why would they be eager to move to a terrible racist white supremacist country?

robayon 10-28-2021 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ooloo (Post 3381099)
So not *everyone* does, that means it isn't a trend? The third largest country in the world by population?

Mexico and many south american nations are not shitty at all, and yet migrants pass through them to run accross the southern US border. Why would they be eager to move to a terrible racist white supremacist country?

Would you rather hold the gun, or would you rather have the gun fired at you?

It's safer to be here than on the receiving end of American foreign policy

Have you ever been to other countries, and if so, which ones?

Homesteaded 10-28-2021 09:04 PM

People can poo poo America all day and lay critiques against it, fair or unfair. The reality is we captured the best mode of living. It appears that we are losing that but the ideas that the country were founded in are solid.

Anyone who claims the American healthcare system is terrible is living in a clown world. We employ the best doctors in the world, we are the home to the best hospitals in the world. End of discussion.

robayon 10-28-2021 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Homesteaded (Post 3381131)
It appears that we are losing that but the ideas that the country were founded in are solid.

I can just see this in Latin, carved on the last standing column in the remains of a Roman city

The 'mode of living' in America is literally destroying the Earth's ability to sustain human life

Whale biologist 10-28-2021 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by robayon (Post 3381137)
The 'mode of living' in America is literally destroying the Earth's ability to sustain human life

https://i.imgur.com/pmjrB1a.jpg

robayon 10-28-2021 09:29 PM

SENATOR, when did you stop beating your wife lol

Ooloo 10-28-2021 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by robayon (Post 3381137)
The 'mode of living' in America is literally destroying the Earth's ability to sustain human life

Okay, except when we send millions and millions and millions of dollars to haiti. Or directly fund the militaries of european nations who wouldn't be able to afford them otherwise. Or intervene in bosnia, or darfur (admittedly too late) to stop the eradication of human life.

TLDR: what the hell are you talking about? Pollution or some shit?


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