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starkind 04-21-2021 03:39 PM

Also this video demonstrates why civilians shouldn't bare arms unless they are part of and on a mission from said well regulated militia.

If untrained crazy ppl didn't walk around armed to the teeth cops would never need guns only swat would.

indiscriminate_hater 04-21-2021 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bardp1999 (Post 3292674)
Not sure why cops even needs guns really - give them bean bag rifles, clubs, and stun guns IMO

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Originally Posted by Jibartik (Post 3292673)
Id rather the police didnt think they were super hero's and their job is to save lives.

It's to maintain order.

They are not ED-209's designed to protect us from all harm. I dont need protection from harm. I dnt need them running around shooting people to protect others from it either.

Spoken like someone who has never been in a life-threatening situation with another violent offender before. Everyone that has changes their fucking tune real fast.

Toxigen 04-21-2021 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater (Post 3292694)
Spoken like someone who has never been in a life-threatening situation with another violent offender before. Everyone that has changes their fucking tune real fast.

Yup.

Snortles Chortles 04-21-2021 03:44 PM

why bother policing when you can execute everyone
way easier amirite
(LOL)

Jibartik 04-21-2021 03:45 PM

OH i forgot you guys all came from warzones.

GinnasP99 04-21-2021 03:46 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fer9ql7itc

starkind 04-21-2021 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jibartik (Post 3292701)
OH i forgot you guys all came from warzones.

Yeah, let's focus on changing this instead of burning down a city because a white male cop protected an unarmed black woman.

If that cop didn't care he would have just got in his vehicle and drove to where deadly force wasn't necessary. Less paperwork. Who cares about that neighborhood anyway? Or that girl in the pink. /s

Danth 04-21-2021 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by starkind (Post 3292690)
Also this video demonstrates why civilians shouldn't bare arms unless they are part of and on a mission from said well regulated militia.

The English language changes over time. You ARE part of that well-regulated militia, by 1790's understanding of what that phrase meant. The militia was understood to be any able-bodied man from about 14 to 60 or so. "Well-regulated" must be understood in context of its era--ordinary professional soldiers were called "regulars." The idea was that the militia (meaning the general populace) should be equipped as well as the regular army, thus eliminating the need for the nation to maintain a large standing army. "Well-regulated," in that context, meant what we today would call "well equipped." They meant it, too. An ordinary citizen, back then, could own anything the army could: Not just small arms, but bombs, grenades, rockets, field artillery--absolutely everything up to fully-armed naval warships. The folks who founded this nation thought large standing armies were evil things and wanted to ensure their new nation wouldn't NEED a large permanent standing army. They even got away with it for awhile, but it's been a long time since the U.S. army was small.

Of course technology changes over time, too. I might argue that I don't particularly want my neighbor fielding nuclear weapons or Sarin gas canisters, and maybe the second amendment as-written is perhaps a bit out of date--but fix it via the constitutional amendment process, not by "interpreting" rights out of existence. I've never liked that kind of weasel tactic and never will.

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Originally Posted by Bardp1999 (Post 3292674)
Not sure why cops even needs guns really - give them bean bag rifles, clubs, and stun guns IMO

My opinion of the police (and I used to do that job, years back) is that since they're part of the citizenry, they should have access to the same things anyone else in their area has--no more, no less. I don't like turning the police into a militaristic occupying army.

Danth

starkind 04-21-2021 04:03 PM

A well regulated militia to me in modern terms means. Training. Standards. And an armory. A chain of command. A muster.

Much like the national guard but less active and maybe only monthly drills. And a short basic.

But, holy crap modern people would lose their shit if they had to maintain a motorpool one day a month lol. And maybe walk around the neighborhood picking up garbage occasionally.

Horza 04-21-2021 04:08 PM

It's a good thing Danth can read the minds of men who died centuries ago or I might have to form my own opinions.


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