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Azzbad 05-29-2011 11:35 AM

Innerflame
 
Innerflame has some issues....

[Sun May 29 10:32:10 2011] You are not in a group. Talking to yourself again??? (Innerflame macro)
[Sun May 29 10:32:11 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 116 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:14 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 116 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:16 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 116 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:18 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 128 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:18 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 116 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:20 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 128 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:22 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 116 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:25 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 116 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:25 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 116 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:27 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 127 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:27 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 116 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:30 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 116 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:30 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 116 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:32 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 116 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:32 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 116 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:34 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 116 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:34 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 116 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:36 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 116 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:41 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 116 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:43 2011] You crush a drolvarg rager for 116 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 10:32:43 2011] You have slain a drolvarg rager!

Versus 05-29-2011 11:44 AM

Tell me you were using a Jade mace...please.

I'm dreading getting home from work and playing my broken ass monk.

Uthgaard 05-29-2011 11:54 AM

Without context, chatlogs are useless. Go into more detail. What were you wielding. What were you hitting for without the disc active?

Edit: Nevermind. You were afk so I kicked you offline and found out myself. Enjoy the buffs.

http://pastebin.com/K6i96DLw

This is using a T-Staff, without disc. What you're seeing is probably a side effect of lower melee damage overall.

http://classic-web.archive.org/web/2...cription&Id=14

It looks like if anything is wrong, the regular attack damage isn't being added to the bonus damage, but the posts stating that there is addition look like conjecture with no evidence to support the theory.

Azzbad 05-29-2011 12:17 PM

Whoops....I refreshed page and redid my post without everything.

Tranquil Staff was the weapon.

Also: I can get a max hit of 128 *without* innerflame active and then using innerflame my max is 116. Something is strange.

Versus 05-29-2011 12:32 PM

According to Uth's post from wayback...

If your max damage is 128 *without* IF, then WITH IF it would be 128+(4x29)= 244 max

Before today, the min hit with a T-Staff (not sure anymore, I havn't been online yet) was 18. So min damage with IF should be 18+(4x29)=134

amirite?

By the way, I forget off the top of my head what the max was before, any monks with a better memory want to help me realize how hard we've been mitigated (read: fucked)?

anthony210 05-29-2011 12:38 PM

I dont remember what the max was but I know I was hitting for over 200 quite often with inner flame.

Rais 05-29-2011 02:12 PM

I was able to log on last night and play around some. During this time I was able to pop Innerflame.No buffs, and a Str of 150 using Tstaff.
So I can post before/after logs. Hope this helps any. I have no clue on formulas for melee or anything.


Innerflame on: 268 max hit.

Quote:

[Sun May 29 00:20:25 2011] Your muscles bulge with the force of will.
[Sun May 29 00:20:27 2011] You crush a phantom for 198 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 00:20:29 2011] You crush a phantom for 248 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 00:20:29 2011] You crush a phantom for 268 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 00:20:31 2011] You crush a phantom for 198 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 00:20:31 2011] You crush a phantom for 216 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 00:20:33 2011] You crush a phantom for 184 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 00:20:33 2011] You crush a phantom for 248 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 00:20:35 2011] You crush a phantom for 254 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 00:20:35 2011] You crush a phantom for 226 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 00:20:37 2011] You crush a phantom for 184 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 00:20:37 2011] You crush a phantom for 268 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 00:20:39 2011] You crush a phantom for 180 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 00:20:39 2011] You crush a phantom for 180 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 00:20:42 2011] You crush a phantom for 226 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 00:20:44 2011] You crush a phantom for 180 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 00:20:48 2011] You crush a phantom for 198 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 00:20:50 2011] You crush a phantom for 268 points of damage.
[Sun May 29 00:20:53 2011] --You have looted a Master Wu's Trance Stick.--

No innerflame: Max hit 134

Quote:

[Sat May 28 03:07:43 2011] Auto attack is on.
[Sat May 28 03:07:44 2011] You crush a vapor golem for 60 points of damage.
[Sat May 28 03:07:48 2011] You crush a vapor golem for 134 points of damage.
[Sat May 28 03:07:48 2011] You crush a vapor golem for 48 points of damage.
[Sat May 28 03:07:50 2011] You crush a vapor golem for 134 points of damage.
[Sat May 28 03:07:50 2011] You crush a vapor golem for 66 points of damage.
[Sat May 28 03:07:52 2011] You crush a vapor golem for 134 points of damage.
[Sat May 28 03:07:54 2011] You crush a vapor golem for 134 points of damage.
[Sat May 28 03:07:54 2011] You crush a vapor golem for 134 points of damage.
[Sat May 28 03:07:56 2011] You crush a vapor golem for 85 points of damage.
[Sat May 28 03:07:56 2011] You crush a vapor golem for 134 points of damage.
[Sat May 28 03:07:59 2011] You crush a vapor golem for 134 points of damage.
[Sat May 28 03:07:59 2011] You crush a vapor golem for 18 points of damage.
[Sat May 28 03:08:01 2011] You crush a vapor golem for 85 points of damage.
[Sat May 28 03:08:05 2011] You crush a vapor golem for 109 points of damage.
[Sat May 28 03:08:05 2011] You crush a vapor golem for 134 points of damage.

Aoloen 05-29-2011 04:21 PM

i too have been getting the same 116 dmg using innerflame, level 60 with strength at 178 using a Rod Of Mourning.
have had reports of other monks of different levels getting the same 116 damage normally on hit's using innerflame and tstaff / RoM.

kanras 05-29-2011 04:45 PM

http://www.monkly-business.net/forum...ead.php?t=8830

Quote:

INNERFLAME (Level 56): When using this discipline, all hits landed by the monk will be for at least four times the base weapons/hand damage. This discipline lasts for 12 seconds, and has a base reuse time of 30 minutes. The reuse time for this discipline will decrease as the monk gains additional levels.
The main difference in damage you're seeing from pre-patch to post-patch is the removal of the 100% damage multiplier. The other is that the minimum damage modifier was acting like a damage bonus. It's now acting like a minimum damage modifier.

Versus 05-29-2011 04:47 PM

ASHENHAND (Level 60): When this discipline is activated, the next Eagle Strike will do a surprising amount of damage, and under certain circumstances may have a chance to kill the target outright. The base reuse time for this discipline is 72 minutes.

Havn't seen any insta-deaths yet...


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