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dcortez 06-13-2021 08:56 AM

venomous axe or sarnak wh?
 
Which is better aggro?

Venomous Axe of the Velium Brood or Sarnak Warhammer?

Jimjam 06-13-2021 09:53 AM

Warhams. Venemous axe is a good twink item for low levels. It lacks stun/slow/snare/ac debuff - the things that generate strong aggro against high hp mobs.

SlankyLanky 06-13-2021 12:38 PM

+1 for the warhammer. its a pretty great weapon especially for the price. i know some people dont like the graphic but i think its one of the cooler looking weapons. once the hammer starts to proc theres no reason to use axe over hammer.

Snaggles 06-13-2021 06:09 PM

Venom axe is 85 hate (or whatever the DD is). Sarnak warhammer is 400 plus if the stun lands it's a functional effect. Super underrated weapon, imho and I too like the look.

Keebz 06-13-2021 08:22 PM

If OP is lower level, under say 35, the venomous axe is better. Assuming main hand usage, at some point the DMG bonus will tip things in favor of the warhammer, but the ratio on the axe is slightly better while having a proc that works 46 levels sooner. If we're talking off hand, the axe will be better until the hammer procs at 46.

Baler 06-14-2021 10:00 AM

another +1 for at low levels venomous axe.

At higher levels I have seen the Sarnak Warhammer Proc used to peel agro back onto the tank, they switched to it for the proc then switched back to their normal weapons.

Gustoo 06-14-2021 01:17 PM

Veno axe so insane at low level its the main thing I absolutely love about velious.

Botten 06-14-2021 04:36 PM

So I read a while back here: https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/...n-info.251756/

Specifically this statement:
"The Threat on Dot weapons on P99 is insane because they have the old mechanics where each 'poison counter' has its own threat, so a 9 poison counter has way more threat than a 1 poison counter debuff."

....That possibly the aggro potentially generated from these two weapons procs could generate more threat than the warrior epic.

Infestation (https://wiki.project1999.com/Infestation)
Poisoned Whip (https://wiki.project1999.com/Poisoned_Whip)

My questions is... Has anyone ever seen the Poisoned Whip? I have been playing on P99 blue since 2011 and never seen one being sold

Even EQ Auction and p99 wiki doesn't have a record of it being sold once.

SlankyLanky 06-14-2021 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustoo (Post 3321808)
Veno axe so insane at low level its the main thing I absolutely love about velious.

i agree. its a great twink weapon. i used veno/yak combo before sarnak warhammer procced on my war and never had a huge problem keeping threat.

since OP wanted to know which was better for threat i guess i just assumed they were of a level that the hammer was able to proc, so to clarify my answer for OP the hammer is much better past 46, up until 46 you could use veno and most likely be fine depending on whats in the other hand.

warriors have a decent selection of proccing weapons in their mid to late levels with velious being out, almost any of the more well known ones will work just fine as long as you get a proc. war threat is kinda a rng game in groups especially where its very rare if anyone is going to hold on attacking till you say go ahead.

Stonewallx39 06-15-2021 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botten (Post 3321913)
So I read a while back here: https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/...n-info.251756/

Specifically this statement:
"The Threat on Dot weapons on P99 is insane because they have the old mechanics where each 'poison counter' has its own threat, so a 9 poison counter has way more threat than a 1 poison counter debuff."

....That possibly the aggro potentially generated from these two weapons procs could generate more threat than the warrior epic.

Infestation (https://wiki.project1999.com/Infestation)
Poisoned Whip (https://wiki.project1999.com/Poisoned_Whip)

My questions is... Has anyone ever seen the Poisoned Whip? I have been playing on P99 blue since 2011 and never seen one being sold

Even EQ Auction and p99 wiki doesn't have a record of it being sold once.

I’ve been using the https://wiki.project1999.com/Wrapped..._Serpent_Spine extensively on my warrior (poison count 4 proc) and in my anecdotal evidence it doesn’t rip aggro any differently than a stun proc (like sarnak WH) or debuff (like frostbringer).

I think the 400 hate max change that was implemented on p99 is the reason why. Where all procs were capped at 400 hate for the spell component.

Green scales go for like 1.5 million plat (if they ever sell) for a reason…


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