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DeathsSilkyMist 01-12-2022 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Samoht (Post 3410259)
There's no sacrifice to STA unless the rest of your gear is shit.

2 AC is meaningless on the hardest targets in the game where you need max HP.

15 FR - FR is a noob trap and you're clearly caught in it. Just like you got caught in the see invis noob trap.

Maxing STA with gear means you don't need an STA buff, saving you a slot and maintaining your max HP while getting dispelled.

AC helps on some raid mobs. If you think all raid mobs are AoW you are mistaken.

Resistances are not a noob trap. Please wear resistances during raids so you don't die.

Samoht 01-12-2022 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3410261)
AC helps on some raid mobs. If you think all raid mobs are AoW you are mistaken.

We are talking BIS, and AOW is the BIS example. Nice try, but you're wrong.

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3410261)
Resistances are not a noob trap. Please wear resistances during raids so you don't die.

BIS warriors do not swap resist gear. Quit posting. You're wrong.

Samoht 01-12-2022 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3410261)
Maxing STA with gear means you don't need an STA buff

Don't even know what you're arguing here. Are you implying that you have to have dagarn pants to have 255 STA? Because you don't.

DeathsSilkyMist 01-12-2022 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Samoht (Post 3410271)
We are talking BIS, and AOW is the BIS example. Nice try, but you're wrong. BIS warriors do not swap resist gear. Quit posting. You're wrong.

AoW has been cleared many times with warriors wearing Wurm Hide lol, so I am not sure why you have such a hard on for AoW here. You don't get all of your gear just for AoW. That is silly, as there are many other targets out there. Most raiders cannot afford to buy every possible side grade imaginable for every possible fight, such as Koi Greaves for Koi. So my advice is for most people. If you have enough DKP to buy every item in the game, you can just buy it for fun.

I never said BIS warriors swap resistance gear. That is a straw man. You said resistances are a trap lol. That is stupid. BIS warriors have good resistances already because they have... BIS gear. https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:Detoxx - he has 160 FR CR MR before buffs. Having 200 FR/CR after buffs is going to help in a lot of fights with AoEs, to save spike damage in between CHs.

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Originally Posted by Samoht (Post 3410272)
Don't even know what you're arguing here. Are you implying that you have to have dagarn pants to have 255 STA? Because you don't.

It's pretty simple. Having max STA from gear means you don't need a STA buff, saving a buff slot and maintaining max HP on mobs that dispel. Pretty easy. Low STA races need more STA to reach cap without a buff, and not all warriors have the exact same gear. Having more STA items means you have more flexibility in which items you put in a slot when you are the typical raider who can't get every slot BiS, even if you play a lot.

Arvan 01-12-2022 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GoofiestBall (Post 3410128)
while you all squabble over 2 ac or 5 hp, monks get 0 weight 100hp pants with highest AC of any item in the game that they can buy in EC with the proceeds from raid loot they sold with dkp earned while afk flopped on raids

Sorry you don't get Palladius' Axe which has more AC

Samoht 01-12-2022 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3410281)
It's pretty simple. Having max STA from gear means you don't need a STA buff, saving a buff slot and maintaining max HP on mobs that dispel. Pretty easy. Low STA races need more STA to reach cap without a buff, and not all warriors have the exact same gear. Having more STA items means you have more flexibility in which items you put in a slot when you are the typical raider who can't get every slot BiS, even if you play a lot.

See, you moved the goalposts to match your argument. Just like before. Nobody cares about your opinion on non-BIS warrior gear and how it applies to non-BIS warriors. If you need a STA buff, you are not BIS.

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Originally Posted by Naethyn (Post 3410057)
Koi pants are BIS.

So are SoDs.

DeathsSilkyMist 01-12-2022 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Samoht (Post 3410283)
See, you moved the goalposts to match your argument. Just like before. Nobody cares about your opinion on non-BIS warrior gear and how it applies to non-BIS warriors. If you need a STA buff, you are not BIS.

Back on track:



So are SoDs.

I did not move the goal posts again lol. The way you argue is you fixate on a very specific scenario and assume everyone is doing the same thing. We were not only arguing about BiS Warrior or AoW. You can check the thread lol. You brought it in because it is the only way you can try to win the argument. And you couldn't even win then.

Smoofers 01-12-2022 04:05 PM

Imagine quibbling over 5 HP on a 22 year old game and not even taking fashion into consideration

Ripqozko 01-12-2022 04:07 PM

Ban both of them for scripting replies, you can’t respond that fast with human delay.

DeathsSilkyMist 01-12-2022 04:07 PM

BiS doesn't mean "Best at fighting AoW", it means best in slot. Overall Wurm Hide is going to help you more in a raid than Koi Pants. Koi pants are slightly better than Wurm Hide when fighting Koi due to the Enduring breath and Koi not having fire spells. The 5 HP difference will not matter in AoW, so it is irrelevant there.


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