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Reiwa 01-18-2022 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ooloo (Post 3412616)
The unique thing about the covid vaccines is the fact that they are NEW, period. Not that they are only being *used* newly.

Okay be wrong on the facts then, Trompy. They're not new tech, you just hadn't heard of them.

Ooloo 01-18-2022 04:57 PM

The fact that mRNA tech was developed in 2013 is totally irrelevant to the covid question. It would be like saying "Hey, this atomic energy technology was developed way back in the 1910s and 1920s, what's all this fuss about radioactive fallout??".

The *ONLY* relevant question is: "Are mandatory covid vaccines sensible given the risk of the disease itself and the potential risks of the vaccine for it?".

Ooloo 01-18-2022 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Reiwa (Post 3412618)
Okay be wrong on the facts then, Trompy. They're not new tech, you just hadn't heard of them.

Yes I understand that other vaccines, for other diseases, were developed using mRNA. However, covid is different than other diseases, and the particular intersection of covid and this technology could potentially be risky in and of itself, according to people who actually developed it. If you could be bothered to actually read anything I post and not just skim for gotchas at every opportunity.

Reiwa 01-18-2022 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ooloo (Post 3412621)
The *ONLY* relevant question is: "Does OSHA have the legal authority to make workplace vaccinations mandatory under its health and safety powers?"

ftfy

Ooloo 01-18-2022 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Reiwa (Post 3412625)
ftfy

No, it doesn't. It's completely unconstitutional to grant that much life-altering power to a single body. OSHA could only regulate conditions within a workplace, it can't dictate life for workers outside of that workplace, and these vaccines which already have many well documented side effects could continue to effect worker's lives after they are off the clock.

Jibartik 01-18-2022 05:13 PM

Finally we can wall the workers back up in the coke ovens again.

Homesteaded 01-18-2022 05:47 PM

mRNA is fine, but ivermectin is untested so let's not use it. The logic flows and it glows with these demons.

robayon 01-18-2022 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ooloo (Post 3412623)
If you could be bothered to actually read anything I post and not just skim for gotchas at every opportunity.

This, from the "it's too broad" fella when I linked a detailed and thoroughly sourced explanation as to why "capitalism" has a larger bodycount than "communism"

Nah I am sure you read that whole article and the sources

robayon 01-18-2022 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Homesteaded (Post 3412638)
mRNA is fine, but ivermectin is untested so let's not use it. The logic flows and it glows with these demons.

If we are demons why are you expecting our logic to match your perfect reasoning, gramps

Ooloo 01-18-2022 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by robayon (Post 3412639)
This, from the "it's too broad" fella when I linked a detailed and thoroughly sourced explanation as to why "capitalism" has a larger bodycount than "communism"

Nah I am sure you read that whole article and the sources

Yes I know, you think bigger number = worse. Here's a hint for you:

Capitalism has a "higher body count" because it is a vastly more successful system of organizing civil society, and is thus implemented much more often, over much larger swaths of people. We also tend to have much more accurate records of things like body count in capitalist, western nations. Communist nations tend to burn any record that is unflattering to the state order, so ya know, that MIGHT skew the data.


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