| BlackBellamy |
03-16-2022 09:27 PM |
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Originally Posted by Reiwa
(Post 3435686)
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Those guys were wrong too.
The failure to deter Russia from attacking the Ukraine is a result of multiple failures across a wide spectrum of administrations since the early 90s.
We attacked Iraq because the neocons. Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld et al.
We attacked Iraq exactly like Russia attacked the Ukraine.
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definition of ‘imminent threat’ was adapted by neoconservatives in the NSS, arguing that because Saddam Hussein was not deterrable, it was inevitable that Iraq posed a threat to US security. Therefore, the US had a legitimate case to use pre-emptive force against Iraq.
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https://www.e-ir.info/2015/09/17/the...e-perspective/
We lied to everyone about WMDs just like the Russians lied about Ukrainian nuclear ambitions. We lied about terrorists being there just like the Russians are lying about the Nazis. We lied that the Iraqis were going to welcome us with open arms and so...yeah.
We invaded their country for no reason, we killed a ton of people, we definitely blew up schools and hospitals and shit. Imagine the Iraqi people wandering around their blown up buildings, their towns destroyed all because 'insurgents' were there. The entire city of Fallujah was a 'valid' military target. No tall apartment blocks smoking in slow motion from a drone and the dead babies were all the wrong color and far away and man our brave boys were taking a lot of fire so we had to call in the precision-not-so-precise love from the sky. Later we're all like hey all you shell-shocked civilians it's cool now, we killed your leaders and also the soldiers, so your sons we guess, destroyed your houses and a lot of other stuff, put in our puppet government and also we're in charge of your oil. Have a great day, you are free!
The neocons did that. I'm not saying we shouldn't be aggressive towards Russia, but we shouldn't be taking specific advice from people who seem to be gloating about how right they were when they are still dripping blood from their own abattoir.
There's a happy medium I'm sure. Somewhere between the feckless and spineless liberals and the warmongering neocons is a group that can destroy all the evil in the world while keeping us pure. Maybe Zac Snyder's Extended Cut Justice League idk.
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