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Reiwa 03-25-2022 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by starkind (Post 3439547)
Ukrainians don't fight like brutalized ppl.

Huh? The cities they fucked up so hard got their independence enforced by Russia.

It's the people that harmed them fighting against the Russians.

(trolling hard now)

starkind 03-25-2022 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jibartik (Post 3439548)
You saying you think the average american on tiktok would fight harder?

Compared to Ukrainians. American civilians need a big handicap. Thankfully America is pretty big and about 2% of us are pretty tough and well disciplined. Or we'd be split begging between Russian, Chinese, European, and Mexican blue helmets.

I don't think the average American could spend 24 hrs in the woods without food, keep quiet, clean a weapon or walk 40 miles over rough terrain. Ain't going to happen.

Sure lots of children and old ppl are literally getting wrekt and shot in the face trying to cook beans, the vast majority of them can at least eat and cook their own beans walk hundreds of miles (even the kids) and fire a weapon anyway.

You're right. Those conscripts didn't want to kill unnarmed ppl or pick fights with their aunts and uncles. Tho. That is changing. Fighting is getting bloodier.

Russian conscripts and major generals dying is a bonus tho. Those where the main threats to Putins regime.

https://i.imgur.com/6en15hy.jpeg
Needs updating for those KIA obviously.
https://i.imgur.com/vEHX293.jpeg

Can someone tell me why Russians can't run a government with any integrity? I'm not digging at the average Russian who just wanted to watch dubbed Simpsons reruns. I'm just wondering why they've had such shitty governments?

Jibartik 03-25-2022 10:50 PM


starkind 03-25-2022 10:52 PM

Anyway what I'm saying is ppl who are neglected, brutalized, abused, oppressed, brainwashed, controlled...

They lack motivation. They give up easy. They don't want to fight. Don't know how to fight. Are obedient. Won't stand infront of tanks or challenge authority.

The average tiktok American is more prone to OD and commit suicide, rather than keeping at least one clean uniform handy, and a few days rations. Americans are too sick to fight and defend what they have because our Armed Services does it all for them. Meaning.

Americans are 1000% dependent on the government and do not even have the freedom to have the ability to defend themselves. Even tho they cosplay cutely.

Jibartik 03-25-2022 10:57 PM

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You're right. Those conscripts didn't want to kill unnarmed ppl or pick fights with their aunts and uncles. Tho. That is changing. Fighting is getting bloodier.
yeah, gotta remember who russia is, those conscripts forgot maybe.

Russia really does have a brutal policy when it comes to life when invading. So it was quite unusual.

starkind 03-25-2022 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jibartik (Post 3439556)
yeah, gotta remember who russia is, those conscripts forgot maybe.

Russia really does have a brutal policy when it comes to life when invading. So it was quite unusual.

I was surprised. Also by the Ukrainians tbh.

Jibartik 03-25-2022 11:23 PM

Fake or real

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...m-Ukraine.html
https://i.imgur.com/T2eGYfd.png

starkind 03-25-2022 11:30 PM

I could argue, that about the only difference between a Russian and American is that Americans have more expensive and well trained military. And more social welfare.

Everything else seems roughly equal. I could swear that guy was interviewing American teenagers about either Trump or Biden.

starkind 03-25-2022 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jibartik (Post 3439560)

Ya I don't know honestly. Wouldn't surprise me.

Jibartik 03-25-2022 11:32 PM

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I could argue, that about the only difference between a Russian and American is that Americans have more expensive and well trained military. And more social welfare.
As for me, I think it's our judicial branch. All them lawsuits really keep people in line.

We're just as incompetent as the Russians, it's just that we have all these little watch dogs everywhere, and a system that empowers them.


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