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Gustoo 04-04-2022 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Patriam1066 (Post 3442746)
I saved my Kentucky redneck brother in law from opioids long after he destroyed his relationship with my sister and my nephew. There’s hope I think, I am the redneck whisperer

Official nomination for Patriam1066 hero of project 1999 emu messageboards for 2022.

Good work.

Elizondo 04-04-2022 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Patriam1066 (Post 3442735)
There are journalists with them, not all Putin simps like yourself haha

Stick with the coloring book starkind suggested

You didn't watch the interview with Zelensky lol

Reiwa 04-04-2022 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Horza (Post 3442750)
At least he's admitting he's been totally convinced by the Russian disinformation campaign and stopped just acting all coy and shit.

Some of the lies about Ukraine are true though.

Code:

FREEDOM IN THE WORLD 2021
Ukraine
PARTLY FREE
60
100
Political Rights        26 40
Civil Liberties        34 60
LAST YEAR'S SCORE & STATUS
62 100 Partly Free


Trexller 04-04-2022 03:08 PM

Sometimes pages in threads go by too fast for folks to actually understand and then internalize genuine brilliance so, for your reading pleasure, again:

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Originally Posted by Trexller (Post 3442548)
95% of all the information we have about the ukraine conflict is speculative.

we aren't going to know jack shit until various governments declassify information, and refugees and survivors start writing tell-all books.

gotta understand that even tho its russia vs. ukraine, alot of information that comes out of there is currently a national security concern for many other countries, and is therefore very limited.

one example: rumors have been going around and around that the only reason that ukraine has been so effective against russia is that they are being guided by, or have been given access to Joint NATO Allied intelligence services.

Hundreds of perfect shots against tanks and aircraft, pinpoint accuracy on artillery strikes, and literally everywhere the russians have gone, Ukrainian forces were already there and prepared to engage them.

So they are definitely, absolutely working with western intelligence services, ukraine didn't have that kind of info-gathering capability, or at least they didn't 35 days ago.

Now that we can all but confirm that western intelligence is giving ukraine every bit of info needed to beat the russians, it has to remain under some modicum of a veil of secrecy, lest the russians decide that NATO has crossed 'the thin red line' and then nukes Brussels.

it will take time for real and reliable info to get out to the world, and speculating on what if this, what about that, is nothing more than an exercise in futility.


robayon 04-04-2022 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Reiwa (Post 3442764)

Primary funding for Freedom House’s programs comes in the form of grants from USAID and U.S. State Department, as well as from other democratic governments—Canada, the EU, the Netherlands, Norway, and Sweden—and from private foundations, including the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation and the Ford Foundation

Patriam1066 04-04-2022 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Reiwa (Post 3442764)
Some of the lies about Ukraine are true though.



Code:

FREEDOM IN THE WORLD 2021
Ukraine
PARTLY FREE
60
100
Political Rights        26 40
Civil Liberties        34 60
LAST YEAR'S SCORE & STATUS
62 100 Partly Free


I think it’s clear they don’t want to be ruled by Russia? They were ruled by the Soviet Union until 30 years ago. Only the Baltic states have completely democratized following that history

Not sure why this matters or why you keep making this “point.” Donbas did not have a rebellion until Putin got mad in 2014. It’s like blaming navalny for being poisoned. They weren’t spontaneous

Elizondo 04-04-2022 03:18 PM

Crazies want WW3 over potentially just a mannequin

Patriam1066 04-04-2022 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizondo (Post 3442770)
Crazies want WW3 over potentially just a mannequin

No one wants world war 3 ya big dummy. It wouldn’t be much if a war anyway, Russia is getting curb stomped by boxers in track suits (SAD!)

Finland and Poland would take Moscow in a conventional conflict. Our military would do to Russia what the FBI did to cliven bundy

Reiwa 04-04-2022 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Patriam1066 (Post 3442768)
I think it’s clear they don’t want to be ruled by Russia? They were ruled by the Soviet Union until 30 years ago. Only the Baltic states have completely democratized following that history

Not sure why this matters or why you keep making this “point.” Donbas did not have a rebellion until Putin got mad in 2014. It’s like blaming navalny for being poisoned. They weren’t spontaneous

What makes the Ukrainian state any more legitimate than the Russian state?

Patriam1066 04-04-2022 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizondo (Post 3442762)
You didn't watch the interview with Zelensky lol

Did you watch Victor Orban’s victory speech? He’s a whack job if I’ve ever seen one. Weird, incoherent stuff!


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