Project 1999 - Possible for Ukraine to beat back Russia?

There are two distinct types of americans.

The type of american that thinks 9/11 was because of people in the middle easts fault.

And the type of american that thinks the current war in ukraine was a result of bungled US policy, just like 9/11 was after the CIA armed and trained every afghanastan during the russian war there.

Like someone in afghanastan blew up the USA for the same shit it is doing to ukraine for the same reasons duing the russian/afghanstan war we encouraged, someone from ukraine is going to blow up america one day over this shit.

It’s that binary huh? Everything is the fault of the US? Saudi mosques had nothing to do with it? Russia as a state being garbage and imperial for 3 centuries (predating the US) isn’t part of this?

Get a grip jib

Jibartik

07-18-2022 08:15 PM

Wars:
Vietnam
Afghanistan
Iraq 1 and 2 barely even count those were more special military operation (acts of terror)
Korea

Those are wars.

What's happening in ukraine is a bloodbath and the closest we've come to any of the above since any of the above.

It's also the cloest we've come to the cold war (which it seems is back on) So real nice "leaders" you elected, this new world is much better with their form of global governance.

Comparing it to Venezuela just makes you seem like a crackpot.

Horza

07-18-2022 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaveh (Post 3482414)

The point is saying trump had no wars is complete BS

Jib just ignores Iran being at 60% enrichment and trump’s actions in South America, Yemen, etc

As for Ukraine, yeah, sorry, not gonna see eye to eye with the perspective that Russia is entitled to take territory they want because they have nukes and might use them

/shrug

Poor Kurds, they beat ISIS for us and now are basically totally forgotten about in order to fit the latest Fox News narrative.

Reiwa

07-18-2022 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaveh (Post 3482414)

Jib just ignores Iran being at 60% enrichment and trump’s actions in South America, Yemen, etc

I went checking for AUKUS news a couple days ago and I ended up reading French nuclear submarines operate on much lower enriched fuel than subs of the US/UK. Which implies their uh regular land reactors do too.

Nuke-u-lar.

Jibartik

07-18-2022 08:18 PM

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It’s that binary huh?

Yes the CIA caused 911 either by indirect action, or by bush organizing it.

The idea that you would come talking this trash to me about venisuella, and then be like, "thE CiA isNT ReSPonSIbLE foR bInlaADen"

does not suprise me one bit.

Kaveh

07-18-2022 08:20 PM

Yeah man, it’s that binary. Pakistan has no radicalism nor does Saudi Arabia

Iran neither. Not Russia nor China. They have no ideology, everything is just based on reacting to the US

/yawn

Jibartik

07-18-2022 08:21 PM

Oh please tell me more about iraqs WMDs and their 60% enrichment

Why are your kids not in the army?

Reiwa

07-18-2022 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jibartik (Post 3482425)

Oh please tell me more about iraqs WMDs and their 60% enrichment

Why are your kids not in the army?

Ask France how they manage to run all their reactors on such low levels of enrichmented fuels.

60% is a weapons program.

Kaveh

07-18-2022 08:22 PM

Get more mad at people disagreeing with you dude. Tell me more about Iran nkt having radicals. I’m only from there

You lack perspective. Putin is as bad as he seems

Jibartik

07-18-2022 08:23 PM

You're just upset your venisuella argument fell flat.

War is wrong and anyone who believes in it and doesnt go fight and die in it is a simp.

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Tell me more about Iran nkt having radicals.

Didnt say anything about them not having radicals, incase you didnt notice our schools are more dangerous than irans.

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