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Kaveh 10-02-2022 01:08 AM

It needs not be stated that the only thing stopping Putin is Putin or the Russians not following orders

Same reason it was entirely his fault Ukraine was invaded, which you’ve argued against ad nauseam

Jibartik 10-02-2022 01:11 AM

4 years no invasion, dude.

Let me quote your dumb ass:

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Originally Posted by Kaveh (Post 3512809)
it’s related to a bigger long term trend


Kaveh 10-02-2022 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Danth (Post 3512761)
They might be dumb but I don't think they're so dumb as to use anything really major when most of the fallout is going to blow back their way. If they want to go on being the Big Bad Bear international bad guy they might conceivably use some small tactical nuclear weapon as a political middle finger to the west. Those types of things, kiloton range or less, that's small enough nobody's going to start WW3 over it. Seems like political suicide though. Cold war-era anti-nuclear propaganda (much of it quietly funded by the Soviets) was so effective it's still mostly off the table.

Danth

Yeah, I tend to agree, but annexing those regions when you don’t hold them and blowing up your own pipeline seems to show there’s no turning back for you

Disagree about us not responding to a tactical nuke. We would and we should

Kaveh 10-02-2022 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jibartik (Post 3512823)
4 years of peace dude.

There wasn’t peace, that’s you idealizing something that wasn’t reality, like a lot of things you believe.

Four years of a stolen crimea. He was going to keep doing this anyway. He’s even called himself Peter the great. Look up that history to see what it means (it doesn’t mean he ever intended to stop. It does mean he was always going to play the long game to expand the Russian empire)

You know what provokes a bully? Weakness. This is why people think twice about attacking Israel

Jibartik 10-02-2022 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaveh (Post 3512824)
We would and we should

What's this we shit? You wont do anything.

Stolen valor republican bullshit.

Jibartik 10-02-2022 01:17 AM

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You know what provokes a bully? Weakness. This is why people think twice about attacking Israel
This is my effing argument about how we (weak biden) provoked the bully (putin) god dammit i hate you so much sometimes.

Kaveh 10-02-2022 01:17 AM

If I am drafted I will fight for the United States

I was raised Islamic dude, I 100% believe in God and am prepared to die for my family and the United States which has given me and my family every opportunity I’ve ever had, as opposed to being in shithole Iran where you get beaten to death over a hijab

If you don’t believe that it’s fine, I don’t care. The United States will and should respond to the use of a nuclear weapon in a first strike on a nation being conquered in a war of aggression

Jibartik 10-02-2022 01:18 AM

You wont have to do that and you know it that's why you talk tough.

You're classic internet tough guy.

Kaveh 10-02-2022 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jibartik (Post 3512829)
This is my effing argument about how we (weak biden) provoked the bully (putin) god dammit i hate you so much sometimes.

Moldova, Chechnya, Georgia, crimea, Ukraine

I just did it in chronological order for you. Even if you’re right, trump delays it 4 years. And you aren’t right, other than Putin believing trump would leave NATO. Russia is playing the long game and will keep doing this. Why don’t you get that

Kaveh 10-02-2022 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jibartik (Post 3512831)
You wont have to do that and you know it that's why you talk tough.

You're classic internet tough guy.

Again that’s an assumption you make. I will die for my family without hesitation

And we’re an obese country. If world war 3 happens the US will need charismatic high IQ autists. I’m straight Neil Patrick Harris from starship troopers. Do your part and all


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