Project 1999 - Game Mechanics: A Phase Spider in DN should be able to summon

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A Phase Spider in DN should be able to summon

The level range on these mobs is wrong. They should be able to be level 51, and able to summon.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...99823024070495

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nasty habbit
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#Feb 26 2001 at 11:44 PMRating: Decent
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these have a nasty habbit of phasing you out within a certain distance, seems to only happen on random bites, but can be quite dangerous. as a caster i was summoned for overnuking, phased out next to another spider then summoned back, nice way to gather more unwanted spiders.
also makes it easy to ping pong the spiders when tanks get phased out.

btw, these are easily stunnable and that puts a pinch on their phasing :)

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#Jun 28 2001 at 11:16 PMRating: Default
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Some of them are definitely level 50 or lower. I was just in the zone entry area with my level 51 necromancer. One conned white, the rest conned blue.

Let me just say this evidence is extremely rock solid!!

It is just like how a rock golem in the hole has a level range and it makes it so they can sometimes be high enough level to summon!

Fixed, pending update

-phase spiders of the appropriate level now summon

Mr. 'bog,

Since it bears on this report, previously mentioned Phase Spider agro range is too low (apologies, don't know specific value from live testing) and that they should run sow speed.

Here is the old bug report:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...86#post2716086

Many people in era mention snare is hard to stick but recall bards swarming these with ease on P99:

a Phase Spider agro range and run speed:
Basically, a bunch of reports saying these run faster than 'run speed 3', which would put it near SoW speed (one poster says jboots speed). Also says they have a wide agro range, but you can practically walk next to them on P99. Also seems root is tough to keep on them, but snare is easier (although resists can be had and are problematic due to run speed).

https://web.archive.org/web/20030908....shtml?id=5422

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Posted @ Thu, Sep 4th 2:07 PM 2003
I kill them with the ol' "Root and Rot" method. At 60, I would seriously not try for more than one at a time. And SoE is a must, zone into to WW to reapply when it drops, these run SoW speed. One resisted snare and you will have problems. Oh, yeah, always pull with snare unless you have a HUGE head start. And, they have a prety big aggro range.
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Posted @ Sun, Jul 27th 10:17 PM 2003
They spawn right in front of the entrance, so easily accessible. They run faster than Run3, so keep them snared. They hit max probably the mid 100s or so.

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Posted @ Mon, Aug 5th 4:50 AM 2002
Rooting these while fighting cuts down on the phasing, also are very resistant to snares, never landed one. Seem to have around jboots speed, sow will outrun them barely. Ice nukes work well on them. Stuns work sometimes but not really worth casting due to there resist rate of it. Hit for around 140+, so buff up... good luck =)

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Posted @ Tue, Apr 9th 1:31 AM 2002
i've been here and this proc is actually very nice for casters... I think it might even make them easier to solo (root sticks well when it finally hits for 5 seconds +) but my experience with these bastards was with 1 group, and it was hard enough to get these rooted so that they'd stop running back and forth in bad paths (damned zin of this zone has the spiders smokeing crack)

The site itself is not accessible, however a preview of its contents shows a partial comment which verifies that some phase spiders were known to summon.

https://web.archive.org/web/20010517...%20Discussions

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Decaying Skeleton United Kingdom 72 Posts Posted - 04/17/2001 : 03:56:21 ok, The Phase Spiders have around 10k HP'sNot all summon, they run little slower then Jboots. The hit hard and fast and proc a

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Originally Posted by baakss (Post 3531611)

The level range on these mobs is wrong. They should be able to be level 51, and able to summon.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...99823024070495

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fOR The record, i just tested with a level 51 toon and at least 1/8ths of the mobs, if not more, are level 51.

Thats pretty odd, if you look through history they swapped those spiders lvl between 47 to 50, 51 to 52, and 47 to 51 and from all the comments around there is only this guy talking about being summoned. would be nice if someone could check live and tell us.

I just did 5 minutes of research, and found quotes about summoning.

https://web.archive.org/web/20020827....shtml?id=5422

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as I was running back to zone to my life I must have sprung a trap cause all these little beetles came up and killed me along with the 2 spiders summoning me like mad back and forth. that's how I died.

https://web.archive.org/web/20020302...&pg=2&sortby=2

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Don't try pulling these a long distance cause they will teleport after you and they will summon aswell. oh yea and you can't use any speed altering spells on them, snare, darkness etc...hope this helps :)

If this is not legit, the change can be reverted. It was simply adding summoning to the level 51 variants of this npc.

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Originally Posted by nilbog (Post 3534008)

I just did 5 minutes of research, and found quotes about summoning.

https://web.archive.org/web/20020827....shtml?id=5422
https://web.archive.org/web/20020302...&pg=2&sortby=2
If this is not legit, the change can be reverted. It was simply adding summoning to the level 51 variants of this npc.

It's an unpopular change because DN spiders are used by bards to PL toons through the 50's. But it does appear to be legit that these spiders could summon at 51.

So I'll admit, I didn't happen to come across any 'summon messages' from phase spiders in the log files I collected over the years, but have some flavor text that i'm not completely sure is in P99 or not.

I'll do a better search later tonight, can parse the entire log file directory I have for any mobs that summon.

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[Wed Jan 23 23:09:59 2002] a phase spider's corpse is motionless, trapped in this reality. '

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[Wed Jan 23 23:14:55 2002] a phase spider feeds. '

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[Sat Apr 05 17:08:34 2003] an out of phase spider phases in!

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[Sat Apr 05 17:09:14 2003] a phase spider gnashes its translucent mandibles.

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[Thu Apr 24 12:21:44 2003] a phase spider begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Apr 24 12:21:44 2003] a phase spider Gates.

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[Tue May 27 20:54:17 2003] a phase spider has been awakened by Bumamgar.

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[Mon Jul 21 19:45:46 2003] a phase spider feeds.
[Mon Jul 21 19:45:46 2003] Ailuvian has been slain by a phase spider!