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Snaggles 08-18-2023 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3636582)
I've played a Torpor Shaman for years, and was able to do everything without Fungi Tunic and Regrowth. This is a fact, and is backed up by basic math.

This is literally the same thing we told you for years about how lacking FSI hadn’t ever affected our experience negatively, and you firmly stated just because it hasn’t doesn’t mean it’s and disadvantage.

Arguably outside soloing dragons more mana/second is more helpful than less.

DeathsSilkyMist 08-18-2023 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Snaggles (Post 3636679)
This is literally the same thing we told you for years about how lacking FSI hadn’t ever affected our experience negatively, and you firmly stated just because it hasn’t doesn’t mean it’s and disadvantage.

Arguably outside soloing dragons more mana/second is more helpful than less.

You haven't read what I have been saying for years, even though it has been in my signature. FSI is the best racial benefit for a Shaman, but you do not need it to succeed. Where did you see me say otherwise? Just because something is the best in a set, it doesn't mean anything in the set is going to give you a massive benefit.

From the preface of my guide I wrote almost 3 years ago:

"Due to the high power of the Shaman class, no Racial Bonus is required to best any content. The idea is to determine which Racial Bonuses give you the most edge, with the understanding it won't have a huge impact overall."

What is unclear here?

Snaggles 08-18-2023 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3636680)
You haven't read what I have been saying for years, even though it has been in my signature. FSI is the best racial benefit, even though you do not need it. Where did you see me say otherwise? Just because something is the best in a set, it doesn't mean anything in the set is going to give you a massive benefit.

From the preface of my guide I wrote almost 3 years ago:

"The idea is to determine which Racial Bonuses give you the most edge, with the understanding it won't have a huge impact overall."

What is unclear here?

I still don’t understand why you made a troll sk instead of an ogre. Better combat stats, fsi, less xp penalty. Outside BoTB SK tournaments jousting for 10 mins regen is a pretty weak stat. Pallies get a 8/3 hp to mana regen that stacks with everything and I never mem that rubbish.

DeathsSilkyMist 08-18-2023 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Snaggles (Post 3636681)
I still don’t understand why you made a troll sk instead of an ogre. Better combat stats, fsi, less xp penalty. Outside BoTB SK tournaments jousting for 10 mins regen is a pretty weak stat. Pallies get a 8/3 hp to mana regen that stacks with everything and I never mem that rubbish.

Can you admit that you were reading my posts incorrectly before I answer?

Snaggles 08-18-2023 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3636685)
Can you admit that you were reading my posts incorrectly before I answer?

In my defense you post a lot of stuff. The lack of consistency looks like bias.

DeathsSilkyMist 08-18-2023 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Snaggles (Post 3636689)
In my defense you post a lot of stuff. The lack of consistency looks like bias.

You've shown you cannot even read the guide I've had in my signature for years. It is possible you are completely wrong in terms of thinking I am inconsistent at all. Do you have any evidence of that claim?

If not, please stop posting misinformation about what you think I've said.

Duik 08-18-2023 07:36 PM

Jesus Tittie Fucking Christ. Is this still a thing?

Snaggles 08-18-2023 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3636690)
You've shown you cannot even read the guide I've had in my signature for years. It is possible you are completely wrong in terms of thinking I am inconsistent at all. Do you have any evidence of that claim?

If not, please stop posting misinformation about what you think I've said.

Sorry I don’t care about your guide. I browsed it a long time ago and didn’t glean much from it besides how much you like ogres and FSI.

Since you are posturing instead of engaging in discourse I’ll assume a less annoyed DSM would say SK’s have a Hp recovery issue and regen is helpful. Also that bash interrupts are less likely to happen since tank defense skills over a shaman. This might pass the squint test but my argument (to my alter ego I guess) is the average ogre is also able to cap str, stam, and put more points into intel than a troll. Trolls have better dex and agil but overall the community agrees it’s not as important as the big 3.

I’m not trying to troll. I’m actually keeping this thread on the tracks with all the torp shaman blather…

DeathsSilkyMist 08-18-2023 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Snaggles (Post 3636701)
Sorry I don’t care about your guide...

I’m not trying to troll. I’m actually keeping this thread on the tracks with all the torp shaman blather…

You say you aren't trying to troll, but you use obvious lies about what I've said to try and undermine my credibility.

For someone who doesn't want to troll, you are doing a great job:) Please admit you were wrong, and I will answer your questions.

Lune 08-18-2023 07:49 PM

Regarding DSM I think I've been through all five stages, denial anger bargaining etc and have reached acceptance. I just feel bad for the guy. Most posters, even if we don't see eye to eye... I grow as a player by engaging with them, and learning from them. For example I didn't even think about dex for that Greenmist iksar SK in the other thread. If DSM could learn from other people he could probably enjoy the game more and be better at it. And the whole community would benefit, because the guy seems to have an impulse to help.

Someone should have taught this guy theory of mind and that you need to be able to acknowledge the limitations of your own understanding in order to grow.

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