To correct unclassic behavior, let's just make unclassic game mechanic changes.

And around and around we go.

In classic, I had my epic. On this server I do not have my epic. This is very unclassic.

Oh also, just pointing out that tons of people had multiple accounts that they paid for during classic. You have to remember how insanely addicted to this game people were. Poopsock is a term for a reason. I believe somebody's baby died from neglect because of this game, iirc. 20-30 bucks a month instead of 10 was a meaningless distinction to such types.

So, the point of this place is to emulate '99-'01, and no one tracked Hate in '99-'01, but P99 should have Hate tracking anyways because ... neglected babies?

Loramin is just being difficult for fun, aka trolling

there's no way he could be that dumb

I dunno, I'd like to take that that challenge. ///

I fully believe you will rise to the moment and succeed in this challenge

Such vicious personal attacks :eek:

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Look, y'all can keep making bad insults, or you can use your brains and point out an actual flaw in my argument. Here it is, again, with numbered points you can easily reference.

Back in '99-'01 ...

1. 99% of players didn't have two accounts
2. < 10% of those with 2nd accounts had 45+ level Rangers on them (a safe assumption since there are more than ten classes, and getting to 45 was hard back then)
3. < 50% had connections that lasted, consistently, for hours at a time
4. < 1% willing to do something that crazy; the risk of losing your corpse and/or tons of XP was scarier back then
5. < 1% had any idea there even were safe spots in Hate

Let's just throw out #3 (the Internet connection one), because I don't want to argue the exact percentage, and let's throw out #4 for the same reason: that still leaves 1% of 10% of 1%, ie. ... 0.001%.

Like I keep saying, maybe someone did it once, but 99.99% of all classic play involved 0% Hate tracking.

dude must be serious he's coming at us with math

back in the day I definitely had several accounts, I remember my dad bitching about spending 80/month on his CC. I had 2 computers, one was an alienware and the 2nd was something i scavenged from family

the house had 3 phone lines, i couldn't talk my dad into getting DSL so yeah connection was annoying. the day we got cable broadband is up there with losing my virginity, no joke there, it was mind blowing.

We don't know that a safe spot in hate didn't exist, I doubt there is anyone alive on planet earth who knows for sure.

So if P99 staff didn't put in a safe spot on purpose (although i bet they did), then it's a happy accident.

hate tracking probably did occur, but not at scale. Those early power guilds had Verant staff as members, so they would know every single trick.

So while we can't say that the way we play on P99 in 2024 was the META back in 2000, it was absolutely possible in the year 2000

and being absolutely possible, is plenty of reason to be that way on p99

back in the day, we never came up with all of the emergent gameplay that we employ on P99 because on live we never had the time.

on P99 we have nothing but time

in 2001 we were into luclin, people were like raid hate? fuck that im goin to vex thal