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Grif 10-23-2024 08:24 PM

Pacify duration greatly reduced
 
Pacify's duration went from more than six minutes, to about two minutes. Didn't see any documentation in today's patch regarding if this was intended or not.

p99portage 10-23-2024 10:26 PM

Nah, not intended. they just fucked it up as per usual.

The original thread showing when it was changed is here : https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=328802

I wouldn't expect a fix any time soon if past fuckups are anything to go by.

p99portage 10-24-2024 05:19 PM

Check out the other thread.

It was that long, we just got nuked by a single point of unreliable data.

Jimjam 10-24-2024 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p99portage (Post 3704805)
Check out the other thread.

It was that long, we just got nuked by a single point of unreliable data.

I checked out the thread, lots of compelling arguments and references were made. Thanks for pointing it out!

shalpin99 10-25-2024 02:41 PM

Pacify broken now :/
 
Yeah .. so died multiple times due to this .. my ENC(60) is unplayable for me .. at least until I learn to adapt.

Seems this update was made in error?

I guess I'll play something else .. something without Pacify :)

loramin 10-25-2024 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p99portage (Post 3704805)
Check out the other thread.

It was that long, we just got nuked by a single point of unreliable data.

So Nilbog has been building this place for a decade now. I think it's safe to say he's not biased towards any particular class ... or if he is, he's biased towards Enchanters ;)

He also has been compiling classic evidence for a decade, which means that he likely has access to more classic research than anyone (even including our classic researchers, like Dolalin or Rygar).

So which makes more sense? That Nilbog had access to evidence beyond what was mentioned in that thread, and he corrected the spell's duration accurately ... or that he "nuked" Enchanters based on "single point of unreliable data"?

Jimjam 10-25-2024 05:42 PM

I do wish he’d dump evidence in relevant thread before making changes. Yet again, it is not classic to see the man behind the curtain, so I understand maybe why not.

Croco 10-25-2024 07:19 PM

Just another in a string of countless examples where if players think something is bugged they have to submit 10 pieces of classic evidence, a blood sample, a 23 and me, and an affidavit from an OG everquest dev but if nilbog wants to change something he doesn't have to say shit to anyone or present any of the reasons why the change is happening. Rules for thee but not for me.

Vivitron 10-25-2024 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loramin (Post 3705002)
So Nilbog has been building this place for a decade now. I think it's safe to say he's not biased towards any particular class ... or if he is, he's biased towards Enchanters ;)

He also has been compiling classic evidence for a decade, which means that he likely has access to more classic research than anyone (even including our classic researchers, like Dolalin or Rygar).

So which makes more sense? That Nilbog had access to evidence beyond what was mentioned in that thread, and he corrected the spell's duration accurately ... or that he "nuked" Enchanters based on "single point of unreliable data"?

The most recent changelog now includes "Telin: Recorrected pacify to a classic era duration." And the thread has a 2019 Telin "Fixed, pending update." from when he fixed it from 42s to 7 min years ago.

So reading the tea leaves here I think Telin has been following that thread and updating Pacify's duration to match the balance of evidence there. IMO the post bivoac added after the recent patch thoroughly swings the balance of evidence back to 7 minutes, so maybe the latest change will be reverted.

funry 11-27-2024 12:07 PM

It should be 7 minutes. Telin please fix your mistake and never touch this again.


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