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Dundrige 07-19-2025 12:52 PM

Claw of Lightning or Rogue Epic for offhand?
 
I really can't decide! Help!

Cecily 07-19-2025 01:02 PM

Ragebringer's ATK boost makes it a lot better than it looks. And as much as I hate stat sticks in weapon slots, have you seen the stats on it?

STR: +20 DEX: +10 STA: +10 AGI: +10 HP: +100
SV DISEASE: +10 SV MAGIC: +20 SV POISON: +20
1 : Increase Attack Speed by 40% 2 : Increase AC by 9 3 : Increase ATK by 40

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Samoht 07-19-2025 01:15 PM

Do you have access to another 41% haste item? Are you weapon swapping ragebringer for backstabs?

Dundrige 07-19-2025 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Samoht (Post 3750490)
Do you have access to another 41% haste item? Are you weapon swapping ragebringer for backstabs?

I'm thinking of going Vyemm's Fang as primary, and either rogue epic or claw for secondary. Those two would be my haste item.

Samoht 07-19-2025 01:43 PM

okay, then definitely use claw off hand and swap in ragebringer main hand to backstab

Dundrige 07-19-2025 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Samoht (Post 3750496)
okay, then definitely use claw off hand and swap in ragebringer main hand to backstab

So still worth getting all three? What if you had to choose only two? What combination would you do?

Samoht 07-19-2025 01:51 PM

vyemm's dagger and claw can be harder to obtain, get ragebringer guaranteed and then wait and see which of the others you get first

DeathsSilkyMist 07-19-2025 02:02 PM

According to my DPS calculator, a Rogue with 255 STR, 100% Haste, and 100 ATK base against a mob around level 60 (non-raid mob) does the following DPS:

1. Vyemm's Fang Primary + Claw of Lightning Secondary = 80.5 DPS without Backstab.

2. Vyamm's Fang Primary + Ragebringer Secondary = 77 DPS without backstab. This inlcudes the + 40 ATK from Ragebringer.

3. Ragebringer Primary + Claw of Lightning Secondary = 72 DPS without backstab. This includes the + 40 ATK from Ragebringer.

You'll want to swap Ragebringer to your primary hand for backstabs if you are using Vyemm's fang.

Ragebringer + Claw of Lighting is probably the cheapest DKP-wise. It is up to you how much you want that ~10% autoattack DPS boost by getting Fang + Claw.

Personally I think having Ragebringer in Secondary is too much work to swap it back to Primary for backstabs every time. Ragebringer Primary + Claw of Lightning Secondary is my suggestion.

Samoht 07-19-2025 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3750501)
According to my DPS calculator, a Rogue with 255 STR, 100% Haste, and 100 ATK base against a mob around level 60 (non-raid mob) does the following DPS:

1. Vyemm's Fang Primary + Claw of Lightning Secondary = 80.5 DPS without Backstab.

2. Vyamm's Fang Primary + Ragebringer Secondary = 77 DPS without backstab. This inlcudes the + 40 ATK from Ragebringer.

3. Ragebringer Primary + Claw of Lightning Secondary = 72 DPS without backstab. This includes the + 40 ATK from Ragebringer.

You'll want to swap Ragebringer to your primary hand for backstabs if you are using Vyemm's fang.

Ragebringer + Claw of Lighting is probably the cheapest DKP-wise. It is up to you how much you want that ~10% autoattack DPS boost by getting Fang + Claw.

Personally I think having Ragebringer in Secondary is too much work to swap it back to Primary for backstabs every time. Ragebringer Primary + Claw of Lightning Secondary is my suggestion.

OP, please ignore this self-absorbed narcissist and the useless information he adds to every thread. He's proven to be wrong in all of his shitty theories, but he won't stop trying to spread the shit to every single thread. I don't even know what it means to have Ragebringer in secondary and weapon swap. That's not how it works at all.

DeathsSilkyMist 07-19-2025 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Samoht (Post 3750508)
OP, please ignore this self-absorbed narcissist and the useless information he adds to every thread. He's proven to be wrong in all of his shitty theories, but he won't stop trying to spread the shit to every single thread. I don't even know what it means to have Ragebringer in secondary and weapon swap. That's not how it works at all.

Can you please stop derailing threads with off-topic nonsense? Nobody cares about your baseless opinions. They have been proven wrong multiple times, you are just spamming threads.

Did you read the title of the thread? OP was thinking about using Ragebringer in offhand. If they do that, they would want to swap Ragebringer to primary hand for backstabs, which wouldn't be advisable, as I said in my first post.


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