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MilkyMilkyCamel 10-15-2011 05:07 PM

Responding to lindz,

It was my impression that the majority of community feedback over the past two weeks regarding the resist system was that there were too many full resists / full lands happening, and too few partial resists (compared to classic, I mean, and not just some players' preferences).

The resist system they had in place was not exactly the same as the classic system, correct? And that is because the exact resist check formulas for classic are unknown?

If the answer to either of those questions is a definite, verifiable "no" -- without any exceptions or additional modifying clauses -- then yes, I would agree that the proposed changes represent a major departure from the ideals that the server was built upon, and I would be very disappointed.

mimixownzall 10-15-2011 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Younggotti (Post 434949)
Man you people are fucking amazin...

look at all these beggars demanding shit.... like you fucking people carry any pull in life or even on this forum.


Shit hasnt even been up to test the new system and all these lil fags are bitchin and whining already.

FUCK YOUR CLASSIC MEMORIES, this is what is now so shut the fuck up and play or move along.

Disrespecting the people (devs) that give your worthless little lives meaning.

bravo

You think there is whining now? Wait till it goes live and every class is bitching about what resists are fucked and what ones are not. It will get scary crazy with people whining and bitching: This class is OP, That class is OP, my class is gimp blah blah blah. Now that you have opened up the can-o-worms of balancing outside of classic EQ, you will be doing nothing but trying to appease everyone. You are throwing out the 'well, it's classic' solution to 99% of the problems. Now people will want reduced damage done by this class... upped damage this class does because this other class does too much, yadda yadda yadda.

If you make it classic no one can argue that what you are doing is bullshit. Are you going to have people who argue exactly WHAT is classic? Yes, you always will. But, those numbers will pale in comparison to what you guys are opening yourselves up to.

You step outside of your server model/rules, you open yourselves up for bullshit.

Case in point: 360+ cheaters not banned when rules stated they would. Now THAT was a fucking mess.

Buhbuh 10-15-2011 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MilkyMilkyCamel (Post 434971)
Responding to lindz,

It was my impression that the majority of community feedback over the past two weeks regarding the resist system was that there were too many full resists / full lands happening, and too few partial resists (compared to classic, I mean, and not just some players' preferences).

The resist system they had in place was not exactly the same as the classic system, correct? And that is because the exact resist check formulas for classic are unknown?

If the answer to either of those questions is a definite, verifiable "no" -- without any exceptions or additional modifying clauses -- then yes, I would agree that the proposed changes represent a major departure from the ideals that the server was built upon, and I would be very disappointed.

Lookie! Another person with good analytical skills! I think we're up to four or five people now?

Billbike 10-15-2011 06:38 PM

Everyone go back to p1999 and go to the arena or duel eachother and see how those "classic resist" work for you.

Null knows his shit.

mimixownzall 10-15-2011 06:50 PM

^---- VZTZ fanboi

Dontmez_Mebro 10-15-2011 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Younggotti (Post 434949)
Man you people are fucking amazin...

look at all these beggars demanding shit.... like you fucking people carry any pull in life or even on this forum.


Shit hasnt even been up to test the new system and all these lil fags are bitchin and whining already.

FUCK YOUR CLASSIC MEMORIES, this is what is now so shut the fuck up and play or move along.

Disrespecting the people (devs) that give your worthless little lives meaning.

bravo

I guess if we're going to be nasty about all this then you can eat a bag of dicks.

mimixownzall 10-15-2011 06:53 PM

It's funny to look at all the troll accounts who have less than 20 total posts loggin in and voting for Null.

Billbike 10-15-2011 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mimixownzall (Post 435056)
^---- VZTZ fanboi

PvP fanboy.

For a long while vztz was the only classic PvP, so yes I played there.

So you people think there's " classic resist" just sitting in the garage collecting dust somewhere?

Who did you play on VZTZ Mimi?

mimixownzall 10-15-2011 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billbike (Post 435078)
PvP fanboy.

For a long while vztz was the only classic PvP, so yes I played there.

So you people think there's " classic resist" just sitting in the garage collecting dust somewhere?

Who did you play on VZTZ Mimi?

I didn't. I played live PVP.

Billbike 10-15-2011 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mimixownzall (Post 435082)
I didn't. I played live PVP.

Being that you never even played VZTZ, how do you know what you are arguing against?

While you were bluing it up with unicorns and rainbows, the guys at VZTZ were actually PvPing. Their experience with EMU and PVP is relevant and should not be discounted in ignorance.


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