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Lazortag 12-10-2011 08:56 PM

Bard dots last too long
 
While doing research about a bug I realized that Bard dots all last one tick too long (with the exception of Angstlich's Assonance which lasts ten ticks).

See this page: http://crys.org/everquest/spells/bar...k=1&maxrank=65

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Chords of Dissonance Magic based area effect (caster) - DoT (2-17 damage every 6 sec for a total of 6-51 damage)
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Denon's Disruptive Discord Magic based area effect (caster) - DoT (8-19 damage every 6 sec for a total of 24-57 damage), decrease AC (6-18)
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Fufil's Curtailing Chant Magic based DoT (6-8 damage every 6 sec for a total of 18-24 damage), decrease MR (9-17)
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Tuyen's Chant of Flame Fire based DoT (20-31 damage ever 6 sec for a total of 60-93 damage), decrease Fire Resist (11-17)
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Tuyen's Chant of Frost Cold based DoT (24-31 damage every 6 sec for a total of 72-93 damage), decrease Cold Resist (13-17)
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Denon's Bereavement Posion based area effect (caster) - DoT (30 damage every 6 sec for a total of 90 damage), decrease Magic Resist (15), stun
I know that this page is from later but I'm pretty sure Bard dots were never shortened at any point, and it agrees with the data from here: http://web.archive.org/web/200106110...st=6&mode=list (you can click on each spell and find comments from 2000 or 1999)

and from here: http://web.archive.org/web/200010180...asp?Class=Bard

Both of these pages say that the aforementioned dots last only 3 ticks.

The only dot I couldn't find any reliable info on was Selo's Chords of Cessation (since the sites I listed don't agree on it), but I believe it lasts for only 3 ticks on p99 already, which is accurate.

Uthgaard 12-10-2011 09:10 PM

Denon's Bereavement is supposed to be a 2 tick dot, that much I can confirm, but the rest are missing a duration, but the numbers add up to 3 ticks, including DB. Are you saying they're lasting for 4?

Truth 12-10-2011 09:25 PM

yea its definitely 4 messages per application

Uthgaard 12-10-2011 09:38 PM

Worked the same way on live, and still does. It's just the way the tick counter runs.

Truth 12-10-2011 09:47 PM

alluding to it should be 3 messages

Uthgaard 12-10-2011 09:57 PM

I understood what you meant. That's just how the tick timer works, and it's not a bug since it's always worked the same way on live.

Truth 12-10-2011 10:16 PM

if working as intended™ no need for thread?

Lazortag 12-10-2011 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Uthgaard (Post 489427)
I understood what you meant. That's just how the tick timer works, and it's not a bug since it's always worked the same way on live.

It's actually doing damage four times though, which it should not according to the sources (for example, with the lute Giegue has, Denon's Beravement does about 74 damage a tick for a total of 296 damage, whereas it should only do 222 damage).

Uthgaard 12-10-2011 11:23 PM

Right. That happens. I wasn't saying it was an error in the message, you actually get a fourth tick.

Lazortag 12-10-2011 11:30 PM

Are you saying that's not a bug? All the sources I linked seem to think it is a bug (just add up the numbers). See this:

http://web.archive.org/web/200111250...ll.asp?Id=1038

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THIS SONG DOES WAY MORE DAMAGE, By Trilian soulwind (1/28/2001)

Than 20-24 per tick. One pulse of this song, with mm drums, will do 144 damage over 3 ticks, and lower CR by 27 points. It also stacks fine with Chant of Flame, and Curtailing chant, for a nice total of about 330hp of damage per 18 seconds (one pulse of each). Great for kiting, greater for root-dotting, and even BETTER instead of meleeing, if your group needs that extra damage. These songs will begin to do more damage as you level, as well, and the numbers I have above are PVP, not PVE, so it's even more damage to mobs.
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ACTUAL DAMAGE, By Sakubi doobydoo (6/16/2001)

When cast upon my self the song does 78 damage for the full duration, and drops resist by 28
This would be impossible if the song was applied four times.


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