I am truly embarrased to be associated with you guys and your cruel personal attacks over a game. This isn't even RnF where it can be sometimes expected.

I like Amelinda, but what an utter disaster of a ruling. If you are going to raid suspend an entire guild, be certain you're right for doing so. And if you're certain you're right, don't repeal your punishment early due to an excess of whining.

I don't know whether Amelinda ruled wrongly in the first place or just got fed up with whining and repealed it early, but either way, this once again sets the precedent that the rules are the rules and they must be followed... unless you break them en masse.

Make all zones VP. No raid rules aside from no ninja looting. Let the raid scene police itself so you can actually come down hard and without mercy on those who break the few rules there are. Trying to enforce civility breeds far more animosity than leaving things in their natural state.

Ok,

Stealing.. You have to understand something.. And I know this is hard for you, but this isn't your server, you don't make the rules. nor does TMO or IB or whoever.. This is suppose to be a community for people to enjoy playing a classic game with classic "enforced" rules.

It's quite simple.. Follow the rules, and enjoy the game.. Sure, competition is nice, but excessive training/making your own rules doesn't apply to this community. Were all adults here, why make everyone suffer?..

This community is slowly going downhill, and the actions of very few people are making it this way..

Thanks for your time,

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why we dont forguet the word "clasic" and propose solutions for this server rather than trying to enforce rules that doesnt work.
My solution on a boss pop make zone full PvP with no rules against training.:)

Uthgaard was a biased GM. Amelinda has just proven herself weak andi now ineffective.

If CS would just provide some kind of feedback loop on a petition rather than let it lag. The only way is to either direct tell or do something really stupid like ninjaloot to get attention.

Kind of funny how IB was always accused of GM favoritism.

At least Uthgaard was spot on and would ban people and take action right away

Yeah, Uth was quick to ban and just as quick to correct injustices.

Summary of thread:

Metallikus Confirmed MAD
VD confirmed BAD

I'm curious, it seems that some are suggesting that no appeals process should exist. Should this really be the case? Just allow for a moment, the possibility, that there was an error, should correction be disallowed?

As an aside, there are those of us who think that neither guild deserved suspension, and that any punishments should have been on an individual level.

Look if you hand down 1 week suspension on raiding the least you can do is ride it out. To lift it 2 days early is stupid regardless of the merits of the original ban, because now everyone knows what the top guilds have known for awhile - there are no reprocussions for being anti-social on this server - especially if you do it as a group.