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Fazlazen 03-01-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lanuven (Post 575344)
Sad thing is this rotation will never even be considered seriously as long as VD is pulling their crap membluring dragons that have already been engaged. FTE is FTE. Leave it alone if someone else is fighting it.

As far as that goes, why hasnt a GM intervened in this exploit ? This is clearly not classic and is still being used to grief other guilds ?

What's sad about FTE is you have a guild engaging a mob, then the other one throws a javelin, or throws an arrow before the other guild has, the other guild kills the mob than the first guild and claims the mob. It's bullshit, it's the way IB/TR was doing things to bully the rest of the server for a long time when they had no real competition. It's the style of raiding IB has forced onto the server from the getgo.

I'd like the raiding scene to get away from that, but I still want to compete.

quido 03-01-2012 01:45 PM

I also think it's funny that you think we really mind not killing VP when you don't even attempt it. We'll get those dragons dead eventually =) I don't think you can do the same with the situation reversed.

Strategy: lock in a rotation before people realize how casual we really are.

Come prove that you are actually worthy. Cockblocking us in a single zone proves nothing except that you are crybabies. You want that which you don't deserve. Think you do deserve it? Prove it. And not just over a 3-day period or whatever.

YendorLootmonkey 03-01-2012 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by quido (Post 575360)
I also think it's funny that you think we really mind not killing VP when you don't even attempt it. We'll get those dragons dead eventually =) I don't think you can do the same with the situation reversed.

Strategy: lock in a rotation before people realize how casual we really are.

Come prove that you are actually worthy. Cockblocking us in a single zone proves nothing except that you are crybabies. You want that which you don't deserve. Think you do deserve it? Prove it. And not just over a 3-day period or whatever.

Who gave TMO the authority to decide who deserves what?

We're punching a bully in the mouth. The crybabies are the ones that got punched in the mouth and ran to RNF to cry about it.

falkun 03-01-2012 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by quido (Post 575360)
Come prove that you are actually worthy. Cockblocking us in a single zone proves nothing except that you are crybabies. You want that which you don't deserve. Think you do deserve it? Prove it. And not just over a 3-day period or whatever.

We are working on it. But its kind of difficult to prove something over the longer period you desire when that time hasn't elapsed yet. When you discover time travel, let me know.

As for the topic at hand, you've admitted you don't mind the current raid interference. If that works for you, then you will do fine without a rotation. (you = Jeremy)

To your members crying in RNF, the solution has been presented in this post. You also have members that have stated they want to better the server. If those truly are the goals of TMO, then you will agree to the rotation. If your first duties are to your members, then stop talking out of both sides of your mouth stating that you want to be a better role model for the server while also stating you are anti-rotation. The double speak is obvious. (you = TMO)

quido 03-01-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey (Post 575363)
Who gave TMO the authority to decide who deserves what?

We're punching a bully in the mouth. The crybabies are the ones that got punched in the mouth and ran to RNF to cry about it.

Let's see how you feel in a month when you've killed a pittance of targets overall. Then let's see how you feel two months after that, if you're even still competing then. That is the soonest I can see us even considering such a rotation.

We're not anti-rotation; we're anti VD's entitlement rotation. Know your place or prove that we are wrong. I don't think you have what it takes.

Seriously, you guys shouldn't even ask for a few months. It's pretty clear you just want to secure easy loot cruise control while you think you have a bargaining position, a bargaining position that will soon disappear.

Maze513 03-01-2012 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Wotsirb401 (Post 575353)
The word "exploit" does not exist in VP...

And for this reason alone I have been Duping Plats in VP, Im still working on the coding for Trak BPs... but soon my child soon, your looting are coming

rordell 03-01-2012 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by quido (Post 575374)
Let's see how you feel in a month when you've killed a pittance of targets overall. Then let's see how you feel two months after that, if you're even still competing then. That is the soonest I can see us even considering such a rotation.

We're not anti-rotation; we're anti VD's entitlement rotation. Know your place or prove that we are wrong. I don't think you have what it takes.

Seriously, you guys shouldn't even ask for a few months. It's pretty clear you just want to secure easy loot cruise control while you think you have a bargaining position, a bargaining position that will soon disappear.

that's the part they...
1- don't understand
2- won't admit

Splorf22 03-01-2012 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fazlazen (Post 575358)
What's sad about FTE is you have a guild engaging a mob, then the other one throws a javelin, or throws an arrow before the other guild has, the other guild kills the mob than the first guild and claims the mob. It's bullshit, it's the way IB/TR was doing things to bully the rest of the server for a long time when they had no real competition. It's the style of raiding IB has forced onto the server from the getgo.

I'd like the raiding scene to get away from that, but I still want to compete.

Compete how? Are you simultaneously winning a polesitting competition while you play everquest? :D Perhaps you could also set a record for longest consecutive time on a Ferris wheel with a wireless connection. Again, if you read Jeremy's posts it seems that he enjoys this stuff.

I just don't think EQ the game was designed to have two groups of players in the same dungeon trying to kill the same boss at the same time.

Splorf22 03-01-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rordell (Post 575383)
that's the part they...
1- don't understand
2- won't admit

The part I don't understand is how you guys can care this much about a video game.

Sirken 03-01-2012 02:16 PM

heh, rotations.

i generally don't comment on blue server issues. but i have a question for you guys;

EQ is a competitive mmo based around the downing of mobs. downing the mob provides a sense of accomplishment provided only because of the competition from other guilds for those same contested mobs. i seriously doubt any of you feel like you did big things by downing a mob that is 12 years old, and has "how to kill" strats posted everywhere on the web, all the while there is absolutely no competition for the mob it self.

and so my question is this; if u remove the competition to downing a mob, what sense of accomplishment does killing the mob give you?


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