Veeshan's Peak - Non disputable zone
 

Non-Disputable Zones
Zones deemed Non-Disputable will have no CSR interaction on raid disputes. We will not respond to or take any action on raid disputes involving these zones. Currently the only zone that this applies to is Veeshan's Peak.

Think about what value there is in upholding this stance. Is it time for change? Discuss.

Anyone got that GIF of the dogs/puppies with TMO / BDA tags fighting over something in it? I'd post it if I could find it :D

Why was VP put in that category in the first place?

Classic

because that was always verants stance during velious

I remember reading about it and thinking, "damn. that place must be fucking hardcore if gms wont even go there"

Well in Classic this rule wasn't set in place to encourage other guilds training each other was it? From what I understand that rule was in place to show how hard the zone was and that GM's would not help in any form of corpse retrieval of sort? At least on E'ci where I came from I do not remember seeing this type of VP here :P (although I am not entirely sure if any guild on that server actually completed VP in the Kunark era)

ITT

Chest and Xerxes are just as likely to train BDA as they are TMO.

No.

Step up your game.

hasn't there already been gm interaction involving pathing exploits, loot stealing, and something about a mem blur bug? or does that fall under the "it was amelinda, so ignore it" section?

if that stuff is still enforced, then it sounds like we already have a middle ground. the allowing of training just means both sides have to work to train and counter train each other. sounds like fun.

Mem blur was a bug that applied to mobs inside and outside of VP and has since been fixed.

Ninja looting is not a raid issue, but a server rule infraction and is dealt with on an individual basis.

Don't know what to say about the pathing besides Xz...... messed that one up horribly.

so training = raid dispute?
kill stealing = server rule?

sounds like this could get confusing quickly