Actually, I believe the responses to arsenal's post are more ranty and trolly than his post..

and uh.. Please.. Please send me some of the drugs you're taking if you think my statement is false.. Because Jesus christ.. would I love to be as delusional as you..

2 years?

You might have hit a few raid targets since I took a break, prior to that your endgame (while I was raiding) was perhaps planar clears with a few kills on maestro, fay, an inny or two, maybe a gore that was given up and any kills that VD let you guys have when TMO/IB were suspended.

To say that BDA as a guild has geared up on the raid targets outside of VP and want to be in VP because it's time they naturally progressed is false.

And here we go, inb4 this gets moved to RnF.

There's a place for these discussions, and we all know where it's at. Stop turning every thread into "TMO killed my first born" discussions.

Yay for higher server pop!

Yes Chest please represent your guild properly and start a discussion in RnF I'd be happy to go back in forth ad infintum with you in the proper forum.

People like Chest just can't help themselves; TMO-hate consumes every pixel of their EQ bodies.

Ok then. Back on point. I believe that legalized training in VP is bad for the health of p99 endgame being that it's already incredibly top heavy.

The fact that you all keep throwing dirt around and pretending as if your respective guild's whistle is clean is why these threads get moved to RnF. I personally wish they'd just ban your forum account and in-game account (speaking generally when people post this crap, that is).

You and chest can have fun baiting this into another TMO bash thread, I'm sure Alarti will be happy to play along.

Just going to mention.. and you know this as well as I do..

You don't need gear to kill targets here.. Seriously.. The gear you can get from chardok / seb / howling stones is MORE than sufficient to kill 100% of the targets in the game without much problem..

You could have 90 toons in 5k worth of gear and easily bring down 98% of eq targets..

Now, Gear is important if you're say.. bringing down targets with 12 people.. or 30 people for some encounters..

But claiming that "Oh sorry, U R Not geared enough to raid OUR targets.." is a blatant falsehood..