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Harmonium 02-24-2013 08:12 PM

Hide/Sneak
 
Has anyone else had a problem with hide randomly breaking when sneaking around? I have noticed it happening to my rogue over the past month or so, inevitably leading to a death and not fun CR

Thulack 02-24-2013 08:18 PM

post about it in bug section i think.

Rhambuk 02-24-2013 08:19 PM

does it give you the success message but your still visible or does the hide button randomly depop and you come into vision?

Harmonium 02-24-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhambuk (Post 861677)
does it give you the success message but your still visible or does the hide button randomly depop and you come into vision?

I'll be successfully hide/sneaking around a dungeon, when I will get a message saying I have moved and are no longer hidden and get aggro. This just happened in HS, I had conned the mobs I was walking past when it happened and both were indifferent.

Peekae 02-25-2013 08:15 AM

I had this happen on my rogue several times in the past however i think it was due to a mouse issue.

I usually turn with rightclick / mouselook and in doing so if there is a corpse anywhere nearby at all it would tend to break hide via me right clicking some random fatties corpse that has been sitting in a dungeon for weeks.



Not sure if this is the issue or not as I no longer play a rogue and they just did some changes to see invis however it might be worth a shot to try just keyboard turning at least while sneaking

Rhambuk 02-25-2013 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Peekae (Post 862113)
I had this happen on my rogue several times in the past however i think it was due to a mouse issue.

I usually turn with rightclick / mouselook and in doing so if there is a corpse anywhere nearby at all it would tend to break hide via me right clicking some random fatties corpse that has been sitting in a dungeon for weeks.

This sounds familiar, I remember having the same problem leveling my rogue but i cant remember what the fix or the root problem was. sorry i couldnt be of more help shes since retired

Sycho 02-25-2013 09:40 AM

Aren't hide and sneak 2 separate skills? My understanding was that hide is for when you are standing still, but breaks when you move. Sneak is for moving around slowly while staying invis. However, since both are skills and can be trained, both can be broken randomly.

Farkle 02-25-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sycho (Post 862151)
Aren't hide and sneak 2 separate skills? My understanding was that hide is for when you are standing still, but breaks when you move. Sneak is for moving around slowly while staying invis. However, since both are skills and can be trained, both can be broken randomly.

edit: sorry i misread, they are skills, but one you get a success message, they dont or shouldnt break (or at least they hadnt broken on me in 34 levels).

I noticed this happen a couple of times two nights ago in unrest. Random unhide after successful hide/sneak. appears to be happening to sneak, i.e. sneak breaks and subsequently so does hide because you are moving.

Sycho 02-25-2013 11:46 AM

Here is a useful write-up on the skill. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/skills.html?skill=31

Cecily 02-25-2013 11:46 AM

Practically never happens to me. Sneak first, hide second. Make sure you have both confirmations. AEs break it, trading breaks it, right clicking on corpses breaks it, Xygoz trained on you breaks it, looting breaks it, pickpocketing breaks H/S. Sneak can rarely fail too.

Pretty much if your invis breaks, it usually means you screwed up. I'm not saying it's bug free, but if you're careful.. it's bug free.


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