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Forum: Green Server Chat 10-22-2019, 09:57 PM
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Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
BTW I just wanted to apologize for never...

BTW I just wanted to apologize for never finishing my "accessibility audit". Basically I got halfway through, realized I was in the wrong folder, and then couldn't bring myself to redo it all again...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-17-2019, 12:36 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
I can't speak at all for the UI team or R&N, but...

I can't speak at all for the UI team or R&N, but I think the core issue is ... Green = classic! Those UIs aren't as close to classic as the current Green UI is.

But look, actual classic had two...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-17-2019, 12:02 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
Fun story: a few years ago Rogean tried to...

Fun story: a few years ago Rogean tried to upgrade the forum software to a new version. That's it, just a version upgrade ... the place EXPLODED! People wigged out hard (certainly harder than they...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-17-2019, 11:33 AM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
You're new here, but to the rest of us who've...

You're new here, but to the rest of us who've been here awhile, re-quoting someone else's post is way to express "+1" or "I agree with what this guy is selling". You can imagine an implied "QFT"...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-17-2019, 02:56 AM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
For anyone who cares about accessibility, I...

For anyone who cares about accessibility, I finished my "color audit", and as a bonus we now have a wiki page with the color palette of all text in the UI (not sure how that's useful, but ......
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-16-2019, 09:57 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
Stupid question: do you see the bank in that...

Stupid question: do you see the bank in that screenshot?

Follow up stupid question: if not, what makes you think it didn't have marble elements?



One more stupid question: do you see the...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-16-2019, 09:53 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
On a different note, I can't help but see code...

On a different note, I can't help but see code like:

<TextColor>
<R>255</R>
<G>255</G>
<B>255</B>
</TextColor>

... and just cringe. Not only because Verant makes you write three separate...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-16-2019, 09:48 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
I would encourage everyone to save themselves...

I would encourage everyone to save themselves time and just refer people here: http://wiki.project1999.com/Green_UI

(Or if that page doesn't tell people what you want, make it! :))

Meanwhile, I...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-16-2019, 08:52 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
I mistakenly thought that everyone was...

I mistakenly thought that everyone was complaining because of a color choice. I mean, they were in a way, but really the "translucent that is creating a muted "color"" was the issue for them I...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-16-2019, 08:46 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
I (finally) get it now, thank you for the...

I (finally) get it now, thank you for the clarification. What I wasn't getting was that this isn't really a color problem: there's no color in the world that contrasts with every color :) The issue...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-16-2019, 08:37 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
At the risk of sounding like a moron, because I'm...

At the risk of sounding like a moron, because I'm used to web tech not EQ UI ... can we not keep the current translucent effect but change the colors?
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-16-2019, 08:34 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
I just don't know where to go digging through the...

I just don't know where to go digging through the XML to start looking for them, but I imagine y'all know exactly where to find them?

Once someone gives them to me, or points me to where they are...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-16-2019, 08:29 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
Just so we're clear, we're not talking about...

Just so we're clear, we're not talking about blind people, we're talking about people who can still see, but just not as well as the rest of us.

And 100% they can set different colors. What I'm...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-16-2019, 07:55 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
I know this is the standard response to this, but...

I know this is the standard response to this, but since this keeps coming up I'm starting to wonder ... maybe R&N would be ok with a slight departure from classic, if it means the default UI could be...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-16-2019, 07:06 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
https://i.imgur.com/7HnDCqW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/7HnDCqW.jpg
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-16-2019, 06:12 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
FYI I made a wiki page about this thread/project:...

FYI I made a wiki page about this thread/project: http://wiki.project1999.com/Green_UI

It exists primarily so that y'all can just link it to the next fifty people who claim "this isn't classic",...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-16-2019, 12:06 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
Ugh. I imagine there is already tooling for this...

Ugh. I imagine there is already tooling for this (eg. https://www.eqinterface.com/index.php?section=sidlwidl), but if you could use an XML Schema (ie. a way to verify that the UI code doesn't break...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-16-2019, 10:46 AM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
Awesome sauce! And also thanks for the...

Awesome sauce!

And also thanks for the explanation. At first it sounded like "we're going to have an unclassic feature because not having it wouldn't look pretty" ... and that just didn't sound...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-15-2019, 08:20 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
Again, I'm just one person, and (obviously) not...

Again, I'm just one person, and (obviously) not staff. But I just want to make sure you understood what I meant, because you said "It is not just a simple texture swap" and that makes me think that...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-15-2019, 07:47 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
FWIW worth if ANYTHING comes down to "make it...

FWIW worth if ANYTHING comes down to "make it look good" vs. "make it function classically", my vote is to make it function classically.

To me, the benefit of having everyone classically not see...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-15-2019, 02:12 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
I too remember F10 toggling between full screen...

I too remember F10 toggling between full screen and UI mode (not "full screen UI" and "semi-transparent UI") ... but I started in Velious. As has been shown many, many times here, memories are...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-15-2019, 11:10 AM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
BTW, I saw this today and it reminded me of what...

BTW, I saw this today and it reminded me of what all the brave UI editors here are fighting against:

https://i.imgur.com/R0GCUfr.png

To be fair, EQ will still probably feel like that to someone...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-15-2019, 11:03 AM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
Also, people forget: Green means vanilla/classic...

Also, people forget: Green means vanilla/classic now but the server is going to progress over time, and it will get back almost every removed feature (ie. not pet windows or custom UI, but pretty...
Forum: Green Server Chat 10-14-2019, 09:41 PM
Replies: 490
Views: 176,758
Posted By loramin
ROFL, well for what it's worth this was me,...

ROFL, well for what it's worth this was me, seeing your post (amid the burning wreckage of the previous ones):

https://i.imgur.com/sytNk4Y.gif
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